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[duvaldude08]

This is a forum called other NFL news, so I figure anything is game in thise one. Don't like it? Don't read it. Lets see how Plain Gabbert does tonight.

No need to be negative DD. This is the part of you people really cant cope with....

[copperfiend]

I watched the Minnesota and Denver game yesterday. I am sorry but Ponder looks leap years ahead of Gabbert. There is no getting around that. Even Tebow looked way better. On a side note, it looks like Tebow is starting to throw alot better.

Ponder was a fifth year senior and was considered more "NFL Ready" than Gabbert. But Gabbert is thought to have the higher ceiling. Only time will tell who ends up better.

Don't forget that Leftwich started out pretty well as a rookie and even beat Manning and Brees that year. But as we found out he never really improved.

[copperfiend]

And I did watch most of the game between Denver and Minnesota and Ponder needs to take Percy Harvin for dinner because he made the most out of some pretty basic plays. I am sure Gabbert wishes he had a receiver the caliber of Harvin.

[Dapperdan]

Who is being negative? I am simply  posting in a NFL  forum that I think every other Rookie QB is better than ours. Once he starts showing us something.... anything... I will defintiely acknowledge that.

[Tacachale]

Yes, another miraculous victory for Football Jesus and friends against a team with a 2-9 record. Seriously, it's the same thing we keep going over and over - (1) a dapper, photogenic QB/T-shirt salesman puts up mediocre numbers and affects some poses (2) his passable team squeaks in a W over a weak opponent (3) Enter chorus: OMT, HE'S DONE IT AGAIN!!!/THAT'S PREPOSTEROUS JUST LOOK AT HIS STATS.

Let's see Him - sorry, them - play against a decent team for once, and then we can talk about how Tebow's wondrous "will to win" really measures up.

[duvaldude08]

Who is being negative? I am simply  posting in a NFL  forum that I think every other Rookie QB is better than ours. Once he starts showing us something.... anything... I will defintiely acknowledge that.

DD dont play crazy "Plain" gabbert? yeah that was definately a positive comment. 

[Dapperdan]

I watched the Minnesota and Denver game yesterday. I am sorry but Ponder looks leap years ahead of Gabbert. There is no getting around that. Even Tebow looked way better. On a side note, it looks like Tebow is starting to throw alot better.

Ponder was a fifth year senior and was considered more "NFL Ready" than Gabbert. But Gabbert is thought to have the higher ceiling. Only time will tell who ends up better.

Don't forget that Leftwich started out pretty well as a rookie and even beat Manning and Brees that year. But as we found out he never really improved.

That is true. I guess we can never really know. I am just saying, if he shows nothing at all this year and into the beginning of next, then we have wasted two seasons again and must start all over again with a new guy. To me,  it is frustrating watching every other rookie QB show way more than we see here. It isn't even close. We can only blame it on the recievers so much.

[duvaldude08]

Yes, another miraculous victory for Football Jesus and friends against a team with a 2-9 record. Seriously, it's the same thing we keep going over and over - (1) a dapper, photogenic QB/T-shirt salesman puts up mediocre numbers and affects some poses (2) his passable team squeaks in a W over a weak opponent (3) Enter chorus: OMT, HE'S DONE IT AGAIN!!!/THAT'S PREPOSTEROUS JUST LOOK AT HIS STATS.

Let's see Him - sorry, them - play against a decent team for once, and then we can talk about how Tebow's wondrous "will to win" really measures up.

Right! I will say Tebow did play alot better yesterday, but lets be real.. The teams they have beaten SUCK. We will see how much juice they really have when they go up against a real team.

[Dapperdan]

Who is being negative? I am simply  posting in a NFL  forum that I think every other Rookie QB is better than ours. Once he starts showing us something.... anything... I will defintiely acknowledge that.

DD dont play crazy "Plain" gabbert? yeah that was definately a positive comment. 

I copywright that name if it sticks.

[Dapperdan]

Yes, another miraculous victory for Football Jesus and friends against a team with a 2-9 record. Seriously, it's the same thing we keep going over and over - (1) a dapper, photogenic QB/T-shirt salesman puts up mediocre numbers and affects some poses (2) his passable team squeaks in a W over a weak opponent (3) Enter chorus: OMT, HE'S DONE IT AGAIN!!!/THAT'S PREPOSTEROUS JUST LOOK AT HIS STATS.

Let's see Him - sorry, them - play against a decent team for once, and then we can talk about how Tebow's wondrous "will to win" really measures up.

Right! I will say Tebow did play allot better yesterday, but lets be real.. The teams they have beaten SUCK. We will see how much juice they really have when they go up against a real team.

I believe they play Chicago next week, then The Patrots. Will you finally give him some credit if he beats at least one of those two teams? I know the bar is set so high for Tebow for some reason.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I believe they play Chicago next week, then The Patrots. Will you finally give him some credit if he beats at least one of those two teams? I know the bar is set so high for Tebow for some reason.

Let me try and sum this up for you the best way I can:  Tebow isn't winning the games!  Tebow isn't kicking the field goals.  Tebow isn't forcing sack-fumbles while the Vikes were on the Broncos 8ydline.  Tebow didn't make the pick 6 on the next Viking drive after going 3-out.  Tebow isn't picking the ball off at the end of the game to set up the game winnning 23yd FG. 

10-15-202?!?  Those are pedestrian numbers, and when you look into the numbers they're atrocious.  202 Total Yards Passing - 86 of those were YAC - recievers making plays, not Tebow.  Did you catch the (4) diving catches the receivers made?  Recievers making plays not Tebow.  Side note:  One wobbly duck pass that hit DT in the hands in the endzone towards the end of the 3rd Q - great pass - no catch.

His running game was shut down.  It was McGahee that went beast mode for 111 yds.  An amazing 87 of those came after 1stCo.  He was unstoppable.  It was his 24yd run for a TD in the 4Q that put the team in a position to win.  Not Tebow. 

You watched the game, DD, so you saw the diving catches (4) that his receivers made.  Not good throws - good catches.  Except for one wobbly duck pass that hit DT in the hands in the endzone towards the end of the 3rd Q - good pass - no catch.

If anything, Tebow led his team to (6) 3-outs, 1 Punt, 1 Fumble.  Both TD passes were only made because of DTs elusiveness.  I'm sick and tired of the Tebow thing.  He is definitely a polarizing figure and is possible being judged unfairly, but he's the only QB in the league that would get CREDIT for that win. 

My Point:  Any other QB not named Timothy Richard Tebow and the Headline for that game reads:  BRONCOS WIN!  LED BY AN OPPORTUNISTIC DEFENSE, THE CIRCUS-CATCHING AND AFTER-THE-CATCH ABILITY OF THE WIDE RECEIVERS AND A RUNNING BACK WHO WOULDN'T BE DENIED.

[copperfiend]

I watched the Minnesota and Denver game yesterday. I am sorry but Ponder looks leap years ahead of Gabbert. There is no getting around that. Even Tebow looked way better. On a side note, it looks like Tebow is starting to throw alot better.

Ponder was a fifth year senior and was considered more "NFL Ready" than Gabbert. But Gabbert is thought to have the higher ceiling. Only time will tell who ends up better.

Don't forget that Leftwich started out pretty well as a rookie and even beat Manning and Brees that year. But as we found out he never really improved.

That is true. I guess we can never really know. I am just saying, if he shows nothing at all this year and into the beginning of next, then we have wasted two seasons again and must start all over again with a new guy. To me,  it is frustrating watching every other rookie QB show way more than we see here. It isn't even close. We can only blame it on the recievers so much.

Ponder's numbers aren't that much better and his team is worse than the Jags.

[Keith-N-Jax]

I'll be glad when we can move on from Tebow. Its really irritating now. Vikings are 2 and 9 for a reason. Not to mentioned that  int sure did help. I wish Gabbert receivers could be that wide open. They'll probably win the Bears game since they are with out there starting QB and other key players. Lets see what happens when they play the New England b/c I don't think completing 10 passes will win that game.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I'll be glad when we can move on from Tebow.

Keith-N-Jax?!?!  You're really John Elway, aren't you?

[Keith-N-Jax]

How did you know?