on the subject of police helicopters

[acme54321]

Maybe they can finally sell the military choppers

LOL,  Since when is a Bell Jetranger a "military chopper"??

[north miami]

we must be prepared to use whatever method necessary to protect the security of our nation, even if it means practicing, with an attitude, on some of our more recalcitrant citizens.

Wonderful word craft Ralph W.

......and then what?'Practice',apply to ever more 'recalcitrant' Citizens?

What does recalcitrance look like in Avondale/Riverside/Ortega , Flemming Island,Marsh Landing-closets full of weaponry,at the ready for that certain something.

[acme54321]

Still not seeing any military helicopters.

[north miami]

Yea,helicopter would instill,induce certain response.Likely few Patriots have thought of.....tanks.
All of this equipment painted with tactical aspects in mind,creating socially constructed norm:BLACK. DARK. not pink,blue.

Black helicopters.Not sky blue.

I  see the armored tank employed at the Regency area seems to have a showroom quality,no dents or battle wear.Do we call the Dent Doctor to keep her spiffy? I wonder what the service costs are for the donated tank.....we ain't going to Auto Zone ........

Regency........why of course.What are the statistical chances of employing such equipment to Avondale,Ortega ?

Shift to ultra low gear,batten down the hatches,plow on to a question:How does Jacksonville crime rate per capita compare relative to other city profiles.Are our Law Enforcement cost needs lower,average,higher?

[acme54321]

acme and bt.  I wouldnt expect you guys to be able to see them.  If I remember correctly, neither of you looked at waterboarding and saw torture either.

Ok, don't know if I ever said anything about waterboarding.... 

You still haven't shown me a military helicopter though. 

[acme54321]

One of these is not like the other:

[Ralph W]

Now yer Talkin'. I see some drool on a couple of SWAT uniforms.

[wsansewjs]

Are we really talking about helicopters?

ROFLCOPTERS!



-Josh

[BridgeTroll]

You forgot to bold this part... I did it for you...

It has been several years since Jacksonville police had a helicopter equipped with an infrared camera. Instead, the St. Johns County Sheriff's Office has been called to assist in nighttime searches, most recently in April when Lynda Wilkes and her infant son, Jay-Quan Mosley, went missing.

[acme54321]

Stephen,

It's not a military helicopter.  It's a Bell Jetranger.  How does adding an IR camera make it a military helicopter?  What's the big deal?

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Is this it?



Nah.  I think these are more like it:
Bell 407

[acme54321]

LOL, and GM makes military trucks so the police must be using military issue Impalas.   Oh yeah I guess I drive a military vehicle too.

You're right Stephen.  I'm sure that helicopter has hidden Hellfire missiles and a minigun.

[BridgeTroll]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_aircraft

A police aircraft is an airplane, helicopter, powered paraglider, or blimp used in police operations. They are commonly used for traffic control, ground support, search and rescue, high-speed car pursuits, observation, air patrol and riot control. In major cities in the United States, police helicopters are also used as air transportation for SWAT personnel.

[edit] HistoryThe first police aviation department was established in 1919 in New York City with two airplanes. Fixed wing aircraft have generally been replaced by the more versatile helicopter since the late 1940s. However, airplanes still have their uses in some missions, such as border patrol, as their higher speed and greater operating altitude allows larger areas to be covered.

In 1921, the British airship R33 was able to help the police in traffic control around the Epsom and Ascot horseracing events.[1]

[edit] MissionsPolice helicopters are normally equipped with variants such as night vision, FLIR, infrared, surveillance cameras, radar, special radio systems and engines, loudspeaker systems, tear gas dispensers, searchlights, winches and winch cables, flashing light beacons, police rescue equipment and special seating. Weapons are usually not attached to the aircraft.

Police forces sometimes use military surplus helicopters, such as the Bell UH-1 Huey, but most buy their helicopters directly from major aircraft companies.

The Edgley Optica was a British light aircraft built for observation use and was adopted by the Hampshire Constabulary as as an alternative to helicopters.

Police blimps were used to patrol the skies during the 2004 Republican National Convention and the 1996 Atlanta Olympic Games.

[tufsu1]

ok Stephen...so JSO bought a new helicopter in 2004 for $2.5 million...how much does the average military-spec helicopter cost?

[wsansewjs]

I am sorry but I have to agree with other guys here that, the miliary copters are so much different from the police helicopters.

Police helicopters are basically a beefed up civilian helicopter. It lacks armors, self-defense missile warning system, auto-Stabilizer, even a sophisticated state of art autopilot technology, and much more.

A JSO helicopter = $2.5 million dollar (bought in 2004).

An US Army-issued military copter AH-64A Apache = $20 million dollars.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_AH-64_Apache

Whooopie doopie ooopies! Big difference!

-Josh