Another pointless crack at our city by the media,

[stephenc]

Here's another article of about the new intro for MNF and right in the middle, another jab at Jax. This media garbage is certainly getting old.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Barry-Sanders-will-take-over-for-Hank-Williams-J?urn=nfl-wp8893

I'd give anything for the Jags to shut this losers up. I have full confidence that this team will turn it around sooner rather than later and earn some respect that this city so greatly deserves.

[simms3]

I didn't think it was an uncalled for jab.  They would have said the same thing about most smaller cities hosting MNF.

[stephenc]

Come on man, what does that comment have to do with the article. Besides the fact there are plenty of people to do an intro for our city. Just like this article from yahoo as well.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-Dallas-Cowboys-remain-the-nation-8217-s-mos?urn=nfl-wp8815

What's the point? Nothing but hatred and animosity for this city having an NFL team.

[Wacca Pilatka]

Come on man, what does that comment have to do with the article. Besides the fact there are plenty of people to do an intro for our city. Just like this article from yahoo as well.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-Dallas-Cowboys-remain-the-nation-8217-s-mos?urn=nfl-wp8815

What's the point? Nothing but hatred and animosity for this city having an NFL team.

It's always the SAME "smaller city" that takes the jab.  Never Indianapolis, never Nashville, never Buffalo.  Certainly not New Orleans.

[simms3]

Certainly not New Orleans because it went through Katrina.  Agreed.

But, Nashville and Buffalo take plenty of jabs and nobody outside of the midwest even thinks about Indianapolis (kind of like nobody thinks of Jacksonville).  Plenty of cities take jabs.  Cleveland and Detroit take more jabs than any city in the world!

[Coolyfett]

I dont understand where the Jab is??

[Wacca Pilatka]

Certainly not New Orleans because it went through Katrina.  Agreed.

But, Nashville and Buffalo take plenty of jabs and nobody outside of the midwest even thinks about Indianapolis (kind of like nobody thinks of Jacksonville).  Plenty of cities take jabs.  Cleveland and Detroit take more jabs than any city in the world!

I'm talking NFL/fan support-specific jabs, not just jabs overall in the universe.  This isn't generalized whining.  I'm not from Jacksonville - I live in Virginia - and it's glaringly obvious that there's a media meme to pick on Jacksonville when there's a market to be picked on. 

See, e.g., this article: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-cole_nfl_downtown_la_stadium_concerns_100611  Goes out of its way to talk up Jacksonville as though it were the only logical suitor and contains a sidebar link to a passionate argument for how the Bills and Buffalo belong together.  And that's only a minor example.

When Cincinnati sells 41,000 tickets to a game, not a peep.  When we sell over 60,000 there are still jokes about lack of fan support.  Last year Mike Ditka referred on NFL Countdown to there being "25,000" in the stands in Jacksonville for the Colts game when there were over 63k.

Even in the debacle year of 2009 we were only third last in ticket sales, yet with the detailed front page articles in every major media source you would think we were last by a mile, accompanied by the inevitable move-to-LA speculation.  Did Tampa get that kind of scrutiny when it sold barely over 40k a game last year?  When Detroit ticket sales tanked, everyone made excuses for Detroit.  Hardly anyone talked up New Orleans' moving pre-Katrina, even though their owner was openly discussing it.  No one breathed down Cincinnati and Arizona's necks when they went the better parts of decades with 20-40k in the stands.

As a result of the deliberate distortions that have gained the status of fact, people from outside Jacksonville often think the Jaguars play to a near-empty stadium of thoroughly detached fans and that the moving vans are parked outside.  Until I take them to a Jaguar game, and I don't have the time and resources to take everyone in the country.

No other market is treated that way.  Period.

[Wacca Pilatka]

I dont understand where the Jab is??

The jab is that he's saying that Jacksonville wouldn't be able to get someone to do a pro-Jacksonville pregame intro. 

[stephenc]

Certainly not New Orleans because it went through Katrina.  Agreed.

But, Nashville and Buffalo take plenty of jabs and nobody outside of the midwest even thinks about Indianapolis (kind of like nobody thinks of Jacksonville).  Plenty of cities take jabs.  Cleveland and Detroit take more jabs than any city in the world!

I'm talking NFL/fan support-specific jabs, not just jabs overall in the universe.  This isn't generalized whining.  I'm not from Jacksonville - I live in Virginia - and it's glaringly obvious that there's a media meme to pick on Jacksonville when there's a market to be picked on. 

See, e.g., this article: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-cole_nfl_downtown_la_stadium_concerns_100611  Goes out of its way to talk up Jacksonville as though it were the only logical suitor and contains a sidebar link to a passionate argument for how the Bills and Buffalo belong together.  And that's only a minor example.

When Cincinnati sells 41,000 tickets to a game, not a peep.  When we sell over 60,000 there are still jokes about lack of fan support.  Last year Mike Ditka referred on NFL Countdown to there being "25,000" in the stands in Jacksonville for the Colts game when there were over 63k.

Even in the debacle year of 2009 we were only third last in ticket sales, yet with the detailed front page articles in every major media source you would think we were last by a mile, accompanied by the inevitable move-to-LA speculation.  Did Tampa get that kind of scrutiny when it sold barely over 40k a game last year?  When Detroit ticket sales tanked, everyone made excuses for Detroit.  Hardly anyone talked up New Orleans' moving pre-Katrina, even though their owner was openly discussing it.  No one breathed down Cincinnati and Arizona's necks when they went the better parts of decades with 20-40k in the stands.

As a result of the deliberate distortions that have gained the status of fact, people from outside Jacksonville often think the Jaguars play to a near-empty stadium of thoroughly detached fans and that the moving vans are parked outside.  Until I take them to a Jaguar game, and I don't have the time and resources to take everyone in the country.

No other market is treated that way.  Period.

Well said!!!

[iMarvin]

I read that too! I was just on Yahoo and clicked on the article. There was no reason for bringing up Jacksonville. It's frustrating, but I just don't even worry about it anymore. We could win the Super Bowl and sell out every game for the rest of the season and we would still get talked about. I really just don't even care anymore.

[Traveller]

I didn't think it was a knock against the city.  I took it as the author thinks it will be difficult to find a former Jaguar (or Jax native) that most MNF viewers will recognize.

Maybe the remaining boys from Skynyrd can do a rendition of "Saturday Monday Night Special" before one of the games.