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Occupy Jax is coming...

Started by coredumped, October 04, 2011, 07:59:56 PM

chipwich

All these protests are a massive waste of time, energy and money.  If anyone seriously belives they can change corporatism by perching themselves in the middle of a street or park for a few hours, then it is too late for you.  You unfortunately will achieve nothing more than a suntan (assuming it is a sunny day).

You folks on MetroJacksonville are all way too smart to take place in this aimless protest.  You really are.  Left, Right Centrists, it doesn't matter.  You are too intelligent sit in a park all day holding signs.

If you really care that much about greed and the broken system we have ( and it is broken), then you have to actually do something about it with your wallet, not your bongo drum.  Those rich 1 percenters don't stay rich by not getting monmey from the bottom 80 percenters.  The 80 percenters spend every day (out of nescessity and out of desire) and the profits go to that top group that you dislike so much.

....if all these protesters spent less time sitting in a park and spending money on signs and costumes, I think they would realize that they would be better off spending that time planning businesses and co-ops with each other.  The best way to make Warren Buffet poorer is to group thousands of protesters together and have them start up a co-op car insurance company.  That would be less money for GEICO. 

..If you dislike the Koch brothers, don't buy Dixie plates, Angel Soft or any other GP product., etc.

The power of the people is within them.  If you don't like the system, change it.  That is best way to  redistribute the wealth.  If you don't want to do that, then save your money, cosume less and buy stock in the companies you use.  At least then you will get a say in the company and get back a portion of the profits via dividends.

I never thought that I would be the fervent capitalist on this board, but these protests just make me shake my head in confusion. 

Protests are great if they have a specific purpose.  These protests unfortunately do not.  Ending injustice is not a realistic or quantifiable goal.  You can't fight a concept.  Our police have learned that in the war on drugs and our military has learned that in our many freedom fighting missions overseas.

FayeforCure

ah, the metrojacksonville lurkers are coming out to discourage us.

His/her suggestion: stop being a consumer!

Stop believing in an accountable democracy........it doesn't work/exist.

Sorry chipwich, you're too late. The American Spring has started...........even in Jax!!
In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.
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chipwich

Best of luck then.  I hope you suceed in whatever it is you are trying to accomplish.

thekillingwax

In protest of the protest I am occupying my couch. What gravity hath united, let no man put asunder.

FayeforCure

Quote from: chipwich on October 05, 2011, 07:25:48 PM
Best of luck then.  I hope you suceed in whatever it is you are trying to accomplish.

Thank you chipwich. Much appreciated  :)
In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.
Basic American bi-partisan tradition: Dwight Eisenhower and Harry Truman were honorary chairmen of Planned Parenthood

coredumped

I protest by not banking with these horrible banks. Keeping my money in our community is a great side effect:)
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ronchamblin

I’ve heard it said that the protest on Wall Street is lacking firm statements of intention or objectives.  The specifics and demands more aligned with reality will in time emerge to clarity.  The population increasingly knows “something” is wrong, but a problem evolved silently and covertly over decades via the pressures of the human passion for greediness, power, and selfish machinations to its current complexity eludes description for now.  A struggle’s lack of clarity and awkwardness is no cause for dismissal, but a cause for concern, as the very fact of its existence describes powerful injustices within our society. 

The fundamental wrongs placed upon our vulnerable and suffering population over decades of manipulation and abuse by those welding the real power behind the scenes, both in our government, and in our moneyed elites, will finally be brought to light by the pressure of truth.  If democracy returns to work again in this country, the emergence of truth during the times of unrest will cause action for change and removal of the current absurd oligarchic power structure that has crept upon us over recent decades.

Although my civility resists it, my imagination takes me still to the ideals of justice, and those ideals include fantasies of the guillotine being used to apply justice to some of the individuals who over the decades have, through their greed, arrogance, and their total lack of consideration for the average citizen, engaged in actions that, if we were to know of their true nature and excesses, would give many of us great pleasure to observe how well the guillotine works upon the heads of these arrogant elites; those who are puffed-up over their three homes and two yachts and millions in offshore accounts, as they look proudly down upon those who, as a direct result of decisions made by these corrupt elites, have no homes, little food, no job, and not even a money to ride the bus.     


BridgeTroll

Apparently there is not even a rough draft list of these shadowy "corporatists" and "elites" who are causing all this damage.  Just who are these people?? :o
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acme54321


BridgeTroll

Quote from: acme54321 on October 06, 2011, 06:51:09 AM
The corporations bro!

Ah... so it should be pretty easy to list ALL CEO's, board of directors, and stockholders of ALL corporations.  Or maybe it is just the CEO's?  Or the Boards?  Stockholders?  Surely the people who work at corporations must share blame in this elitist attitude...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

RiversideLoki

The irony here is that this protest is probably going to die before it gets off the ground. The organizers are finding out that there's all sorts of "laws" and things they can't say to JSO or they'll have to get a permit and insurance for the event. With the additional fact that they can't stay overnight in Hemming Plaza.

I agree with the message, but if you're gonna protest, protest. Don't go all half-cocked on it.
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acme54321

Quote from: BridgeTroll on October 06, 2011, 06:55:46 AM
Quote from: acme54321 on October 06, 2011, 06:51:09 AM
The corporations bro!

Ah... so it should be pretty easy to list ALL CEO's, board of directors, and stockholders of ALL corporations.  Or maybe it is just the CEO's?  Or the Boards?  Stockholders?  Surely the people who work at corporations must share blame in this elitist attitude...

All of them!  Domestic terrorists!!

BridgeTroll

Quote from: acme54321 on October 06, 2011, 07:47:25 AM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on October 06, 2011, 06:55:46 AM
Quote from: acme54321 on October 06, 2011, 06:51:09 AM
The corporations bro!

Ah... so it should be pretty easy to list ALL CEO's, board of directors, and stockholders of ALL corporations.  Or maybe it is just the CEO's?  Or the Boards?  Stockholders?  Surely the people who work at corporations must share blame in this elitist attitude...

All of them!  Domestic terrorists!!

I thought so... pretty broad brush...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

civil42806

"Although my civility resists it, my imagination takes me still to the ideals of justice, and those ideals include fantasies of the guillotine being used to apply justice to some of the individuals who over the decades have"

Well as long as your civility resists it your cool

Non-RedNeck Westsider

QuoteOccupy Jacksonville
There has been some talk about in future "walk abouts" to spread them out all across the city at strategic locations, example walk abouts in Mandarin, West side, , Arlington, Ocean Way, Orange Park. Spread this thing out a bit so there is not such a concentrated number of people in one place. Use Duvals vast area to our advantage.

I learned of this walk about thing back in the late 80's - it's a good way to clear your head, but you have to have the right background music....

http://www.youtube.com/v/8fFRyTZEjb4?
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