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Occupy Jax is coming...

Started by coredumped, October 04, 2011, 07:59:56 PM

coredumped

I saw a flyer, looks like Occupy Wallstreet is coming to jax:
https://www.facebook.com/OccupyJax
Twitter:
https://twitter.com/#!/occupyjax

Here's their unofficial press release:

QuoteHundreds from across Florida will assemble in downtown Jacksonville to hold the first Jacksonville General Assembly in response to the Occupy Wall Street movement in New York City. As a leaderless organization, Occupy Jacksonville seeks to establish a permanent presence in the First Coast area.

At Hemming Plaza, 135 Monroe Street West, crowds will gather at noon to discuss issues, peacefully protest corporate greed and political corruption, and march Saturday, October 8th at 2:00 p.m. The People of Occupy Jacksonville are not governed by any one individual or group, but instead use the General Assembly forumâ€"established by Spaniards earlier in the year and imitated by the Occupy Wall Street protestorsâ€"to create a symposium through which general consensus can develop. The first Jacksonville General Assembly will act as a “Town Hall” forum for debate, dialogue and dissent amongst Floridians who identify the modern economic climate as a key component to national and global unrest.

With 1% of the population overseeing nearly 40% of the nation’s assets, and with economic decisions in Washington D.C. and on Wall Street hindering progress in every sector across the nation, many are in agreement that something needs to change. However, politicians in both major parties continue to side with financially prosperous individuals and corporations at the expense of the other 99% of the population. Those include people of all political, religious, socioeconomic, racial and educational backgrounds. The Jacksonville General Assembly, in solidarity with the New York General Assembly and others across the nation, seeks to address these issues by hearing from all perspectives indiscriminately and forming a united response agreed upon by the entire collective.

Occupy Jacksonville wants to stress its nonviolent approach to societal conversation. Though many individuals will come together from their diverse traditions to protest and march in solidarity, the Jacksonville General Assembly will act as the cornerstone upon which the needs of the 99% will be cautiously built. The collective as a whole is its own spokesperson; no individual opinion represents the consensus of the Jacksonville General Assembly.

All are welcome. None will be turned away. Nonviolence is paramount.
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RiversideLoki

On the same day as the Zombie Walk.......
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buckethead

YESSS!!

I've got my "Eat The Rich" and "Capitalism Must Go" signs at the ready.

I'll be the naked person with the horribly hideous body. Bring a Sharpie, kids!

Bridges

Quote from: RiversideLoki on October 04, 2011, 11:04:41 PM
On the same day as the Zombie Walk.......

Might actually fit right in.


QuoteOccupy Wall Street protesters dressed as "corporate zombies" march this week in New York.
So I said to him: Arthur, Artie come on, why does the salesman have to die? Change the title; The life of a salesman. That's what people want to see.

FayeforCure

#4
But seriously:

QuoteOn Saturday, a group of US Army and Marine troops reportedly traveled to New York to help support the movement and offer protection for protestors against police abuse. One Army serviceman by the name of Ward Reilly posted a message on Facebook on his way to the protests saying, "I didn't fight for Wall St. I fought for America. Now it's Congress' turn," a sentiment apparently shared by the other servicemen veterans traveling to protest locations (http://antinewworldorderparty.wordp...).

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/224345/20111004/occupy-wall-street-the-american-revolution-that-the-mainstream-media-is-ignoring-au-ibtimes-com-ibti.htm

Maybe our military population in Jacksonville.........especially those who got out and are facing their 16% unemployment rate.......will boost attendance at Occupyjax!

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FayeforCure

Atlanta Business News 3:31 a.m. Wednesday, October 5, 2011


Wall Street protest expected to widen

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By VERENA DOBNIK


The Associated Press


NEW YORK â€" The protests on Wall Street, the fabled center of American commerce, are expected to swell with reinforcements as more groups head toward lower Manhattan, widening the scope of the ongoing demonstrations.

Meanwhile, organizers have called for students at college campuses across the nation to walk out of class in protest at 2 p.m.

http://www.ajc.com/business/wall-street-protest-expected-1194594.html
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Dapperdan

I don't understand what the protests are for? DO they want corporations to give them money? Corporate greed has always been around. It is what freedom guarantees you. The right to be greedy if you want to be, whether it is morally right or not. It sounds like the occupy movement wants to take some freedoms away from people, unless I am missing the point of this.

FayeforCure

Quote from: Dapperdan on October 05, 2011, 09:59:43 AM
I don't understand what the protests are for? DO they want corporations to give them money? Corporate greed has always been around. It is what freedom guarantees you. The right to be greedy if you want to be, whether it is morally right or not. It sounds like the occupy movement wants to take some freedoms away from people, unless I am missing the point of this.

Yup its that freedom card.

Lets just say that the protestors want freedom from abuse. Freedom from a life of servitude to the corporatists that now want to charge them for the use of their debit cards.

Maybe they just want freedom of suffering.........something every civilized nation strives for.
In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.
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Dapperdan

FayforeCure,
I completely understand, but let me bring up freedom again. The nice thing about Capitalistic freedom, is that if someone decides they want to charge me $5 to use a debit card, I can just change to a bank or credit union that does not do that. Is BOA and other large corporations corrupt? Quite possibly yes, but if everyone leaves them and takes their money away, I feel that speaks far greater volumes than this.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: Dapperdan on October 05, 2011, 10:32:27 AM
FayforeCure,
I completely understand, but let me bring up freedom again. The nice thing about Capitalistic freedom, is that if someone decides they want to charge me $5 to use a debit card, I can just change to a bank or credit union that does not do that. Is BOA and other large corporations corrupt? Quite possibly yes, but if everyone leaves them and takes their money away, I feel that speaks far greater volumes than this.

Holy Crapola!?!?  Somebody actually gets it!

If all of these 'protesters' emptied their accounts from BOA, JPM, etc.. that WOULD send a signal - but standing in front of a building while their deposits still gain interest for the bank.....  Hell, stand there all year - you're still making money for the evil, greedy corporations.
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FayeforCure

Quote from: Dapperdan on October 05, 2011, 10:32:27 AM
FayforeCure,
I completely understand, but let me bring up freedom again. The nice thing about Capitalistic freedom, is that if someone decides they want to charge me $5 to use a debit card, I can just change to a bank or credit union that does not do that. Is BOA and other large corporations corrupt? Quite possibly yes, but if everyone leaves them and takes their money away, I feel that speaks far greater volumes than this.

So true Dapperdan.......in a simplistic life view.

Do you think Americans have the time to switch their banking from one big bank to another.........switch their automatic deposits and payments over........that entire process costs them hours of time! Time they do not have while they are working 3 jobs just to keep their heads above water.

The abuse just keeps piling on........ and corporatists know the power of inertia when consumers are faced with change. Besides, behind closed doors, other big banks have already all colluded to do the same to their customers.

That's why a society based on oligopoly doesn't have the normal checks and balances that even Adam Smith  (who wrote the bible on capitalism) conceded, could only work in a small setting, not in a mass setting.
In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.
Basic American bi-partisan tradition: Dwight Eisenhower and Harry Truman were honorary chairmen of Planned Parenthood

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: FayeforCure on October 05, 2011, 10:45:05 AM
Do you think Americans have the time to switch their banking from one big bank to another.........switch their automatic deposits and payments over........that entire process costs them hours of time! Time they do not have while they are working 3 jobs just to keep their heads above water.

I think most could find the time if they really cared.  I found 15 minutes to save 15% on my car insurance so I'm pretty sure I could spend a few hours to save my retirement fund if needed.  Also, I'm thinking that those working 3 jobs 'just to keep their heads above water' don't really give a shit what bank they use - more likely, they're cashing their paychecks at Wal-Mart.

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The abuse just keeps piling on........ and corporatists know the power of inertia when consumers are faced with change. Besides, behind closed doors, other big banks have already all colluded to do the same to their customers.

Because we allow it.  While all of these 'protesters' are marching on Wall St., Wall St is still investing thieir money.  Qui tacet consentit - Their silence is in the form of doing nothing and leaving their money where it is.  If you want to break the system, you have to take away the gears of the system.  Walking around and chanting does nothing.

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BridgeTroll

Could we get a list of names of the shadowy "corporatists".  I want to write a letter... :)
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acme54321

Quote from: FayeforCure on October 05, 2011, 10:45:05 AMSo true Dapperdan.......in a simplistic life view.

Do you think Americans have the time to switch their banking from one big bank to another.........switch their automatic deposits and payments over........that entire process costs them hours of time! Time they do not have while they are working 3 jobs just to keep their heads above water.

Is this sarcasm?  It's hard to tell. 


FayeforCure

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on October 05, 2011, 10:59:08 AM
Their silence is in the form of doing nothing and leaving their money where it is.  If you want to break the system, you have to take away the gears of the system.  Walking around and chanting does nothing.

Ah so if we want to protest the abuses of big pharma..........we should just stop using their medicine.

I see.   ???

Every time we turn around, there is someone sticking it to us.

Lets just stop being consumers because our government won't protect us from corporatist abuse.
In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.
Basic American bi-partisan tradition: Dwight Eisenhower and Harry Truman were honorary chairmen of Planned Parenthood