According to Downtown Vision, State Street is not Downtown

[Miss Fixit]

Last week Downtown Vision was contacted and asked to promote Springfield Animal Care and Rescue Club's Dog Days event in Confederate Park, which is just north of State Street.  An employee advised that DVI could not promote the event because it was not in Downtown Jacksonville - according to this employee, downtown ends at the centerline of State Street.

Calls and emails to DVI management seeking additional information were not returned.

DVI regularly promotes events at RAM, which is certainly farther from Jacksonville's traditional downtown than are Springfield's parks.

I understand that there are various city approved maps that provide different definitions of downtown, depending on the purpose of the map (TIFs, anti-vagrancy laws, etc.).  I realize that perhaps RAM contributes to DVIs funding, which might explain why DVI is so zealous in its marketing of that venue.

I find it odd that a project like State and Main would be considered outside of downtown.  Based on DVI's definition, the Parkview Inn was not in downtown Jacksonville.

Can anyone enlighten me as to how DVI is funded?  Other thoughts?

[ChriswUfGator]

That's outrageous. But par for the course with DVI.

[Noone]

Other thoughts?  The Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier still needs to be legislatively separate so that what you have described above won't happen moving forward and everyone will be scratching their heads WTF (Wheres The Freedom)

I attended yesterdays Board meeting of Downtown Vision and first up was a presentation by the group looking to bring the USS Adams to Downtown. I hope that they are wildly successful in what they are trying to accomplish.

Springfield you are outside of the ZONE. So you can't blame Downtown Vision. I'm sure they would support your efforts in a resolution but I can understand being unable to monetarily. I have no idea about a RAM component.

Also at the meeting were huge revelations about where we are headed as a community with future projects and other changes within Downtown Vision.



VISIT JACKSONVILLE

          or

DON"T VISIT JACKSONVILLE

Councilman Redman was there but was not at the previous  Downtown Vision meeting.
I still have  HUGE concerns. Will Jacksonville be promoting PUBLIC ACCESS and Economic Opportunity to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River?

Palms Fish Camp.  Who gets the promotion? Who gets fired? What type of boundary is this?

Regional Partners. Be concerned. I'm scared to death.

[tufsu1]

DVI has a specific jurisdictional boundary for its authority...and is funded by the property owners within that boundary....I don't believe the boundary extends north of State Street.

I live on Church St at The Parks @ Cathedral and the DVI boundary stops at the church across the street.

[Miss Fixit]

DVI has a specific jurisdictional boundary for its authority...and is funded by the property owners within that boundary....I don't believe the boundary extends north of State Street.

I live on Church St at The Parks @ Cathedral and the DVI boundary stops at the church across the street.

How was that boundary established?  How is DVI funded?  Why would you eliminate Jacksonville's only significant downtown park system and high traffic areas like State and Main from DVI's purview?

[Tacachale]

DVI has a specific jurisdictional boundary for its authority...and is funded by the property owners within that boundary....I don't believe the boundary extends north of State Street.

I live on Church St at The Parks @ Cathedral and the DVI boundary stops at the church across the street.

How was that boundary established?  How is DVI funded?  Why would you eliminate Jacksonville's only significant downtown park system and high traffic areas like State and Main from DVI's purview?

Well one, the DVI covers the "Downtown Improvement District", which is a smaller area than the whole of downtown. Their website says

The Downtown Jacksonville Improvement District contains approximately 500 properties and is bounded by Prudential Drive to the south, Broad Street to the west, Church Street to the north, and Market Street to the east.

http://downtownjacksonville.org/DowntownVisionInc/WhoWeAre.aspx

They note that this differs from the broader definition of Downtown used by the city.

DVI is an independent non-profit funded by the property owners and stakeholders within the improvement district. I don't quite understand these boundaries, but i assume they're the ones who came up with them.

[thelakelander]

Here are downtown's borders according the the JEDC:



RAM barely falls within it and the Park View Pavilion is located cross the street from it.  Hogans Creek is essentially the space in between.  Historically, it wasn't that way until we began to draw imaginary borders around certain areas of town.





In these old Sugar Hill aerials, one can't help but notice Hogans Creek's centralized position in a network of pedestrian scale urban neighborhoods.  Ultimately, we'll struggle with downtown and inner city revitalization until we find a way to reconnect and plan the central business district with the neighborhoods that surround it.