On Top of the JEA Building

Started by Metro Jacksonville, September 13, 2011, 03:07:05 AM

duvaldude08

Quote from: simms3 on September 13, 2011, 11:15:07 AM
Security concerns should not be a preventative measure for mixed uses and tourist attractions within a building.  I don't know the elevator capacity or how the bay is arranged, but it is a small building and fewer than 20 floors (so there is only a need for one elevator bay).  I don't see why it can't be done to convert one of the elevators to an express to shuttle between the lobby and the rotating restaurant space.  I don't think that rotating restaurant would do well as a restaurant any more, but I think it could make a great bar/lounge with small food options, open to the public from 11:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. M-W, 11-Midnight on Thursday, and 11-2 Friday, 5 p.m. - 2 a.m. Sat, and customized for Sunday/ game day events.

Perhaps it could be arranged to put in turnstiles for the general elevators, provide a queu for the freight, thereby separating JEA offices from public space.  Also, by putting in RFID readers on exit stairwell doors, patrons won't be able to come "down" into the offices.  The elevator turnstiles would also prevent the general public from entering the elevators without checking in.  That's how most new office buildings where I am are, and office buildings where I am actually have a much greater need for security than that tiny little thing (so IOW no big deal, quick, cheap, and easy fixes).  If BOA and Modis and Riverplace can have public or semi-public space at the top of their much more iconic buildings filled with more sensitive firms (and law firms), JEA building has no excuse not to do something with the top.

All great ideas!
Jaguars 2.0

thelakelander

Would something like Boston's Prudential Skywalk Observatory or Richmond City Hall's observation deck work?



QuoteVisit the Skywalk Observatory, Boston's only sky-high vantage point for sweeping 360 degree views of Greater Boston and beyond. Let your eyes and ears do the walking as you experience the exclusive state-of-the-art Acoustiguide audio tour detailing the city's many points of historic and cultural interest. Offered in 2 additional languages, French Canadian and Japanese.

The Skywalk Observatory & Exhibit is open 7 days a week.
Winter Hours are 10:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. November 1 - March 28.
From March 29 - October 31, the Skywalk will be open from 10:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. (last elevator leaves at 9:30 p.m.)

You can purchase tickets at the Skywalk Observatory Kiosk located in Prudential Arcade. The kiosk is open from 10:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., 7 days a week. In the event the kiosk is closed, you may also purchase tickets at the Skywalk entrance located on the 50th floor of the Prudential Tower.

The Skywalk does close for private functions. Please call ahead to confirm that they will be open on the day you arrive.
http://www.prudentialcenter.com/shop/shop_detail.php?id=64
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simms3

Can you give us figures for Richmond City Hall's observation visitor numbers?  With the cheap and good for the price cafe at the top of the BOA building right now, I don't see how it would work without something else to draw people.  Boston, Atlanta, Chicago, New York, and Houston all have observation decks at least 700 ft up, and all are cities with much more to see and some sort of additional draw (or attached convention hotel, etc).  I know the decks in Chicago and Atlanta also offer overpriced booze for visitors, which is nice because when it is crowded there is a wait to get down.  The decks in NYC and Chicago also offer outside roaming, which is an appeal all its own when you are 1,000 ft up.
Bothering locals and trolling boards since 2005

thelakelander

Richmond City Hall's observation deck is a free public viewing space at the top of their city hall building.  The building is 19 stories/315ft tall.  It's the 5th tallest building in DT Richmond.  At this point, I don't know how many visitors it gets on an annual basis.

QuoteRichmond Tourist Attractions: City Hall Observation Deck - 901 East Broad Street, 9th and Broad Streets, Richmond, Virginia (VA), 23219-1906, USA
Tel: +1 804 646 5990

Offering panoramic views of the Richmond skyline, City Hall Observation Deck is the ideal place to start your tour of the city and get your geographical bearings. The deck can be reached via stairs leading to the 19th floor, while those who are feeling less energetic can take a smooth ride up in the elevator.

Richmond tourist attraction open: Monday to Friday - 08:00 to 17:00, Saturday and Sunday - 08:00 to 20:00
Richmond tourist attraction admission: free



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simms3

Sure works.  I think if a city hall can do it, an electric authority can at least make that space public.  I'd like to see a profitable enterprise up there, but at a minimum something.
Bothering locals and trolling boards since 2005

Noone

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Quote from: acme54321 on September 13, 2011, 08:02:26 AM
Quote from: Noone on September 13, 2011, 03:44:13 AM
Nice article and pictures.
And just imagine that out of town guest that is capturing a glimpse of our river and says what are those orange, green, yellow, red, blue, dots on the river.

Those are kayaks using the river because we promote Public Access and economic opportunity on our St. Johns River our American Heritage River.

Unfortunately right now in Duval county Florida we don't promote that type of economic opportunity. Are you allowed in your county?

Ok we get it, you love kayaking.  But do you have to make some vaguely connected post about our American heritage river in what seems like every other thread on these forums?

Respectfully acme54321 yes. Because Public Access and economic opportunity to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a Federal Initiative has been crushed in this community. Most recent 2011-560 Shipyards/Landmar. Saw Scott Wilson last night as an exclamation point to my whirlwind time with North Miami yesterday. I told Scott that Don is leading the conspiracy to deny the people of Jacksonville to Public Access and Economic opportunity and its flat out wrong.

As for the  JEA potential as a tourist attraction and revenue generator for a yet to be created Downtown Independent Authority I can see it moving forward. As for other existing venues that exist in this city what is there?
Free? Charges?
The Boston one seems steep in price. But then again to do once and for visitors.

I know its exciting as heck to attend the Board meeting of Downtown Vision and look at the river from the 23rd floor.

As a kid I always remember a field trip in to go to the top of the Empire State Building.

Riverrat

JEA could actually make money by leasing the top to an upscale, perhaps nationally recognized, restaurant. Just turn one elevator in to an express elevator and have a security desk downstairs, on duty while the restaurant is open. Everyone always raves about the view at Ruth's Chris/Crowne Plaza...imagine if Morton's had opened at the top of JEA instead of building a suburban outfit with NO windows and thus NO view...

wsansewjs

Seriously, turning the spinning-top restaurant into an office is a cardinal sin for ANY property developer.

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Noone

Quote from: thelakelander on September 13, 2011, 10:40:35 PM
Would something like Boston's Prudential Skywalk Observatory or Richmond City Hall's observation deck work?



QuoteVisit the Skywalk Observatory, Boston's only sky-high vantage point for sweeping 360 degree views of Greater Boston and beyond. Let your eyes and ears do the walking as you experience the exclusive state-of-the-art Acoustiguide audio tour detailing the city's many points of historic and cultural interest. Offered in 2 additional languages, French Canadian and Japanese.

The Skywalk Observatory & Exhibit is open 7 days a week.
Winter Hours are 10:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. November 1 - March 28.
From March 29 - October 31, the Skywalk will be open from 10:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. (last elevator leaves at 9:30 p.m.)

You can purchase tickets at the Skywalk Observatory Kiosk located in Prudential Arcade. The kiosk is open from 10:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., 7 days a week. In the event the kiosk is closed, you may also purchase tickets at the Skywalk entrance located on the 50th floor of the Prudential Tower.

The Skywalk does close for private functions. Please call ahead to confirm that they will be open on the day you arrive.
http://www.prudentialcenter.com/shop/shop_detail.php?id=64

Lake, When we were in Boston last week because of this suggestion we checked it out. We went to the restaurant on the 52nd floor instead of the $13 a piece for the 360 degree 50th floor.

We were there around lunch time and they had a $22 three course option. Soup or salad, 3 entreas, choice of a desert. And it was awesome.  A local made this suggestion to us as we were checking things out. 

The view was spectacular. Watching the planes take off and land at Logan. A cruise ship was in port. The Boston Commons and we walked to it. Took lots of pics. before the day was over we were over at Bunker Hill and enjoyed the Freedom Trail.

What will become of the 19th floor of the JEA building? Like our river. Open it up.

KenFSU

Quote from: Noone on October 14, 2011, 06:37:04 AM
The view was spectacular. Watching the planes take off and land at Logan. A cruise ship was in port. The Boston Commons and we walked to it. Took lots of pics.

Would love to see a few of the pics, Noone!

FlaBoy

Part of a Tourism Welcome Center anyone?

heights unknown

Back in the late 70's, there was a bar and discoteque up there in that revolving restaurant; can't remember the name of it. It had shag carpeting and it was beautiful, and the view was spectacular just as iterated in those photos in the link. I hope they find someone to buy this lovely building and it gets occupied by a viable anchor tenant.
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Gunnar

After a couple of drinks, any bar is "revolving"  ;D

That said, having such a destination would definitely be nice - not sure if Shag Carpeting would pass fire safety nowadays though.
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thelakelander

Haha, they've updated it since then. No carpet these days!

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