Caution: LA is coming to steal your NFL team in 2011

[Tacachale]

^It's through the season. The student section is something like 250 seats each game; I understand that some games are already sold out. As successful as this has proven in the course of one day, I hope they expand the section in the future.

[blizz01]

The new "Jungle"?

[ProjectMaximus]

If WW says were not moving, were not moving. Were locked into a contract until 2030. And we currently dont meet any other requirements to activate the move clause. That being said, Im not worried. The only way this teams leaves anytime soon is if WW sells. Point blank period. 

This is a long thread, so I'm not sure if it's been mentioned already or not, but Weaver is mortal.  I mean, he won't live forever.  And, unless it's been mentioned before, there is no heir to the team.  Yes he loves the city, yes his legacy is tied to the Jacksonville Jaguars, yes they won't move while he owns them. 

Until we prove we deserve a team, we'll always have to prove we deserve the team.  Sellouts, consistent, in good times and bad.  That's it.  The power is with us.

+100. Hey I wonder if Tony Boseli would consider being the heir, how cool would that be

That would be cool and I speculate it is in someone's plans. But he'd obviously have to be part of a team of investors.

[copperfiend]

If WW says were not moving, were not moving. Were locked into a contract until 2030. And we currently dont meet any other requirements to activate the move clause. That being said, Im not worried. The only way this teams leaves anytime soon is if WW sells. Point blank period. 

This is a long thread, so I'm not sure if it's been mentioned already or not, but Weaver is mortal.  I mean, he won't live forever.  And, unless it's been mentioned before, there is no heir to the team.  Yes he loves the city, yes his legacy is tied to the Jacksonville Jaguars, yes they won't move while he owns them. 

Until we prove we deserve a team, we'll always have to prove we deserve the team.  Sellouts, consistent, in good times and bad.  That's it.  The power is with us. 

Even if there were an heir (such as Weaver's nephew Macky), they would have to pay potentially hundreds of millions of dollars in estate taxes.

[Wacca Pilatka]

^It's through the season. The student section is something like 250 seats each game; I understand that some games are already sold out. As successful as this has proven in the course of one day, I hope they expand the section in the future.

Vic Ketchman implied last year that this is in the team's long-term plans.  Apparently this was a successful strategy for the Steelers with Pittsburgh-area schools for some time.

[Wacca Pilatka]

IMO our local media is poision. When it something negative about the Jags, the report it then the article circulates around the web. When its something positive, they dont even mention it. For example, instead of highlighting how good our defense was against the Falcons, the headline read " Jags win: Garrad and Gabbert not impressive.". Am I the only one that see's something wrong with that picture?

I'm not sure it would do any good if the local media were wonderfully supportive.  The national media has had a bead on Jacksonville since the expansion process in 1993.  After they were all embarrassed when Jacksonville actually got a team after all their ridicule, they held their fire until they were given the opportunity to start picking on the city again.  It didn't happen in 1995-1999 since ticket sales were gangbusters and the team got good quickly.  It didn't happen when the blackouts started in the early 2000s, possibly because many other teams had much more glaring problems, but the tarps and the Super Bowl punchlines then made anti-Jacksonville mania catch fire.  Even in 2007, when the three blackouts were near-misses (games to which 62,000-64,000 seats were sold), the L.A. crap was already gearing up.  Obviously 2009's debacle got loads of attention even though the Lions and Raiders had worse ticket sales, and 2010's revitalization was largely ignored, largely on spite.

[duvaldude08]

IMO our local media is poision. When it something negative about the Jags, the report it then the article circulates around the web. When its something positive, they dont even mention it. For example, instead of highlighting how good our defense was against the Falcons, the headline read " Jags win: Garrad and Gabbert not impressive.". Am I the only one that see's something wrong with that picture?

I'm not sure it would do any good if the local media were wonderfully supportive.  The national media has had a bead on Jacksonville since the expansion process in 1993.  After they were all embarrassed when Jacksonville actually got a team after all their ridicule, they held their fire until they were given the opportunity to start picking on the city again.  It didn't happen in 1995-1999 since ticket sales were gangbusters and the team got good quickly.  It didn't happen when the blackouts started in the early 2000s, possibly because many other teams had much more glaring problems, but the tarps and the Super Bowl punchlines then made anti-Jacksonville mania catch fire.  Even in 2007, when the three blackouts were near-misses (games to which 62,000-64,000 seats were sold), the L.A. crap was already gearing up.  Obviously 2009's debacle got loads of attention even though the Lions and Raiders had worse ticket sales, and 2010's revitalization was largely ignored, largely on spite.

My point is, our local media produces stories that get circulated quickly. We already have enough bad press. No need for the local media to add on to it.

[Wacca Pilatka]

Do you think they are starting to come around a bit?  I was astonished at the negativity I saw in the local press in 2009 re: blackouts, as well as some of the embrace of the "Tebow as savior of the franchise" concept.  In 2010 it seemed the tone changed a lot, other than on pro-Gator strongholds like 1010XL, and Vito Stellino still seems a consistent pessimist.  But I don't read the T-U et al often enough to consider myself qualified to conclude for sure that things are improving.

[duvaldude08]

Do you think they are starting to come around a bit?  I was astonished at the negativity I saw in the local press in 2009 re: blackouts, as well as some of the embrace of the "Tebow as savior of the franchise" concept.  In 2010 it seemed the tone changed a lot, other than on pro-Gator strongholds like 1010XL, and Vito Stellino still seems a consistent pessimist.  But I don't read the T-U et al often enough to consider myself qualified to conclude for sure that things are improving.

I think it has turned around drastically acutally. Thats why I want the local media to tone it down. Our local media outlets have been the only talking about blackouts and pointing out all the negative with the team, and its only the PRESEASON. LOL

[Wacca Pilatka]

What's driving me nuts are the people who I know to be ticket holders, who should feel some personal stake in this, who are saying "Well, anyone watching THIS game wouldn't buy tickets!" every time something goes wrong in a preseason game.  All they're doing is providing cover for the fairweather crowd.

[duvaldude08]

I think most people who freak out about the preseason does not understand what the preseason really is. Its not for the starters of team to prove anything to anything, its time for the rookies to get some reps, and the undrafted rookies to complete for a spot on the roster.  That's it. People, fans included, look too much into the preseason. It doesnt count for a reason. I have remained postive personally. The only bad I have really is that Garrad seems to be getting worse. The D-line is a killer when all the starts are in. (the ATL showed alot), and Blaine is firing it up finally.

[Keith-N-Jax]

You really need to put the duval teal kool-aide down if your not  concern about what we've seen in the preseason. Going to be tough season for the Jag faithfuls. Not to mention the three primetime games. I really think we were giving those games to be embarrassed. Like we were last yr.

[duvaldude08]

Well we made through the first primetime game and won. Neither offense did much so it wasn't much of an embarrassment.  The other two, I'll keep my fingers crossed.

[I-10east]

If saying something realistic and reasonable is "sipping teal Kool-Aid" then duvaldude is sipping Kool-Aid indeed. Keith, I never expect you to say anything halfway positive about the Jags, because you never do. Maybe you are sipping on some haterade moreso than anyone sipping on teal Kool-Aid. You're probably the type of fan that have us going 4-12 every year.

[duvaldude08]

If saying something realistic and reasonable is "sipping teal Kool-Aid" then duvaldude is sipping Kool-Aid indeed. Keith, I never expect you to say anything halfway positive about the Jags, because you never do. Maybe you are sipping on some haterade moreso than anyone sipping on teal Kool-Aid. You're probably the type of fan that have us going 4-12 every year.

Why thank you I-10 East.. I am flattered    LOL But seriously there is no person, no sports expert than can predict what will happen with any team. That is what makes the NFL exciting. You never know what may happen. Im sure Saints fans had no clue that they would rise from the bottom to the top in one year and win the superbowl. And I checked their previous schedule, and they were MUCH worse than the Jags. They had even went 3-13 before. But now they are elite. the NFL is unpredictable and thats what I love about it.