Obama is Renewing the American Sense of Identity. Unbelievable to Watch

[RiversideGator]

wow, river.  Youve lost your mind.

Are you seriously red baiting?

The collectivists were unable to attain their goals through communism and socialism (to a lesser extent) and they are now focusing on the global warming hoax to advance their agenda.  This is really undeniable.  It is the same people for the most part with their ranks swollen by scared, credulous people who have been sold a pack of lies.

Americans also knew better than to waste metal during the great wars when it was needed for bullets and armor.  Americans also knew to pool together during the great recession and not depend on the market alone.

Americans built this country on the principles of self sufficiency, not being controlled by mammoth outside forces that could cut you off without so much as a how do you do.

So how about opening up the United States to oil drilling to allow this self sufficiency to flourish?

It is ignorant to waste our resources.  Just like it was ignorant to slaughter the buffalo and clear cut the great plains.   Nice part about being an American?  We arent too stupid to admit when we are clearly wrong.

The resources are clearly wasted however if they remain underground beneath thousands of layers of dirt and rock.

Easy E is right on the money electorally, and let me share something from our dear fellow wild eyed liberal (and obviously secret communist) rupert murdoch.

The owner of Fox News.

The Dems will probably do well in the Fall.  Part of this is the pendulum which is electoral politics and part of this is a lack of conservative governance on the part of the Republican party.  I dont see what this has to do with the price of tea in China though.

[RiversideGator]

the oil itself is killing us charleston.

I have always marvelled at the similarities between the Global Warming deniers  and the  'smoking doesn't cause cancer' crowd.

It poisons everything it touches.

I dont know if you have followed any of the other strings on here, but we are debating whether or not a property is STILL contaminated from a gassification process after 112 years.

Actually, oil is sustaining our economy and way of life.  So, the truth is exactly the opposite of what you have claimed in your typically hyperbolic fashion.

[RiversideGator]

Well river has made a great point that its not the lifeblood of the French economy.

And its not the lifeblood of ours either.   Energy itself may be, but it doesnt have to come from oil.

I just dont understand why you are so eager to support terrorist countries.

1)  So, are you now on board with nuclear power?
2)  Canada provides the largest portion of our foreign oil.  We get a small percentage of our oil from the Middle East.
3)  Drilling in the US will reduce this percentage even further.

[Downtown Dweller]

OMG, THANK YOU Stephen! I needed a good laugh today and here you provided the best with a short recap on the Cannucks biggest shared fantasy, kicking American Ass...you know they still claim they already did?


Thanks!

Now, what did you think of the Hillary supporters on the news yesterday who stated if Hillary doesn't get the nomination they will all vote for McCain?

[gatorback]

Gezz.  How many more churches can this nut leave?  The latest church has done such a great job for the community.  Do you think this next round of dump that church will shine some light on why Obama is not the candidate for change.  Change means you do something not just leave whenever the going gets rough.

[gatorback]

My bad, I meant Preacher.  Either way, I find it hard to have faith in a guy that is constantaly bashing and aligns himself with people like Wright and the new guy,  Father Michael Pfleger.

[RiversideGator]

Wait until the new tape comes out with Michelle Obama speaking on a panel with either Farrakhan or Farrakhan's wife and talking in a racist way about "whitey".  I am telling you that these people (the Obamas) are far left extremists.  There is more to come about them too.  They are not who people think that they are (i.e. moderate, reasonable people).

[gatorback]

Let's just say if He picks Hillary as his VP, then our worst nightmare will have come true.  He has NO NO NO sense of judgement in character. LOL

[gatorback]

My bad, I meant Preacher.  Either way, I find it hard to have faith in a guy that is constantaly bashing and aligns himself with people like Wright and the new guy,  Father Michael Pfleger.

better not run for office then.......ever.

Been there done that albeit in the university.  And I would never go there again.  Let's just say, I salute anybody who can put up with all the bullshit that is public office. 

But really, would "Change" include Hillary for VP?

[Downtown Dweller]

 The "Hulk Girl" is not fooled.... LOL!!!!!

Who would have thunk the pubs had it in them???


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3dy6myWxg8

[Downtown Dweller]

According to P.U.M.A there are millions of Dems that will not be voting Democrat this election. They are angry states were excluded from the primaries so the Dem candidate could be "selected not elected", they are upset about sexist comments and actions made by Obama, they are also upset about blanket racist comments from Obama and his camp made against Dems (apparently they don't mind when it is against Republicans.) Interestingly enough they have no plans to leave the party, only to vote a republican into the office.

I posted this here as the title of this thread states "Obama is Renewing the American Sense of Identity.  Unbelievable to Watch" and it is very fitting, Obama apparently is renewing the American sense of identity by taking everyone back about 50 years! And yes it is unbelievable to watch...

[BridgeTroll]

Seriously River.

You are looking around at the smoking ruins of what used to be the greatest hope for mankind.

Your boys masquerading as 'conservatives' brought that house down.  We are demoralized, demonized, broke, and our army is at its literal breaking point.  Our prisons are so crammed with our citizens that we don't know where to house them, and we have the highest illiteracy and teen pregnancy rate of the entire industrialized world.

Most of our people do not have decent health care, and the homeless are wandering the streets of every city of the united states like zombies.

Whats your answer?  Cut taxes for the rich, keep the darkies out, and bomb the shit out of anybody with oil.

Please dont ever defile the rightful use of the word "Huckster' by ever letting it flow from your keyboard again.

You joked about your SUVs, while the whole of the worlds scientific community was warning that CO2 was a problem, and now you don't want to pay any of the consequences of your actions.

Its everyone else's problem as long as you get yours isnt it?

For 12 years my fellow republicans sat back claiming it was going to lift all boats, while this corrupt and stupid president cut all taxes and responsibility, oversight and regulation for the rich.

Where is the prosperous economy that your philosophy guaranteed?

Why did it turn out EXACTLY the way everyone said it would?

With a big crash of the housing market, 129 dollar barrels of oil, no credit left for the middle class, a national recession, and overnight billionaires parachuting on golden silk from the hundred year old institutions that they sucked dry.

Meanwhile your fellow 'conservatives' are building a fence to keep out the mexicans so angrily that they arent noticing that this country is about to become more third world than the darkies they are trying to keep out.

Or make sure that gay or lesbian people cant have the basic rights guaranteed by the constitution, and spend hours of your miserable time vexed that someone might get laid that didnt ask your permission or advice beforehand.

Or hysterically demanding to restore the 'morality' of the far right by cutting of contraception and watching the teenage pregnancy rate skyrocket.

How dare anyone on the right ever use the word 'morality' again, after selling their soul's to the devil and publicly 'approving' of the president using torture?

The thought literally sickens me.

You want to talk about huckster?

And that is why Obama will change this country.  Because there are a hundred million people who feel exactly the same way about it.

Here are some rebuttals.  While I agree the Bush presidency has turned out to be less than most conservatives wanted much of what you claim is sheer exaggeration...

Our prisons are so crammed with our citizens that we don't know where to house them, and we have the highest illiteracy and teen pregnancy rate of the entire industrialized world.  I contend that teen pregnancy, illiteracy, and failed social policies of the left are the major contributors to these issues...

Where is the prosperous economy that your philosophy guaranteed?  You just lived it... when Bush took office we were in the throes of a recession at the end of the Clinton administration.  Like them or not... those tax cuts lifted us out of that recession and gave us prosperity for 8 years.

With a big crash of the housing market, 129 dollar barrels of oil, no credit left for the middle class, a national recession
The crash of housing is directly proportional to the housing "bubble"... in addition the "crash" is bit exaggerated.  The price of oil is directly related to the success of previously UNSUCCESSFUL countries catching up to the western world.  As of yet... there is no recession by most economists definitions...

Meanwhile your fellow 'conservatives' are building a fence to keep out the mexicans so angrily Cmon... even the Dem party agrees that illegal immigration is a major problem.  All conservatives want is simple enforcement of the law.  Immigrants are welcome... just do it legally.

Or hysterically demanding to restore the 'morality' of the far right by cutting of contraception and watching the teenage pregnancy rate skyrocket.  Cutting contraception??  Oh you must mean abortion... ya got me there.  There is something wrong when my daughter can go and get an abortion without my consent while at the same time cannot go get an innoculation without a parent being present.  Talk about twisted morality...

publicly 'approving' of the president using torture?  The caterwalling about the so called torture is amazing.  Ask Daniel Pearl about torture.  Sleep deprivation?  Waterboarding?  Rough handling? Ooooo... This is not torture.  Do they stress, intimidate, and scare the prisoner?  Absofreekinglutely.

And that is why Obama will change this country.  Because there are a hundred million people who feel exactly the same way about it.  I wish him luck if elected.  We will see about your numbers... You can expect the same tactics employed against Bush by the Dems in congress.  HIS picks for federal and Supreme court judges will be left to languish in limbo rather than getting voted on.  His policies will be filibustered and attached with "special interest" bills to ensure passage.  I could go on but you know what I am talking about...

[RiversideGator]

Obama getting the race based vote apparently:

Barack Obama buzz sweeps through the BET Awards

Jun 25, 7:36 AM (ET)

By DERRIK J. LANG

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Barack Obama didn't attend the BET Awards, but that didn't stop attendees from talking about him.

"If we all register and vote, we will have the first black president in the history of America," Sean "Diddy" Combs told the crowd Tuesday at the Shrine Auditorium before chanting "Obama or Die" - a declarative remix of his neutral "Vote or Die" motto from the 2004 presidential election, when he attempted to boost the youth vote.

Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, was just a few blocks away at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion for a fundraiser with a Hollywood guest list that included supermodels Heidi Klum and Cindy Crawford, boxing legend Sugar Ray Leonard and movie stars Samuel L. Jackson and John Malkovich. While Obama didn't make an appearance at the BET Awards - either live or on tape - his presence was felt.

As she picked up her award for best female R&B artist, Alicia Keys told the crowd that it's time for black people to erase the word "can't" from their vocabulary.

"Together we can do anything," she said, playing on the Democrat's "Yes We Can" mantra before shouting: "Obama y'all!"

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee, John McCain, failed to merit a shoutout by any of the BET presenters or performers.

"For the first time in history, we have the opportunity for somebody who's not in the good ol' boy network to get into office," rapper David Banner told reporters backstage. "People talk about his lack of experience, but there's people with much more experience who haven't done such a good job."

Stephen Hill, executive vice president of entertainment and music programming at BET, said there was talk of having Obama attend the BET Awards but it didn't work out.

"We would've loved it if he would've stopped by," said Hill.

During his monologue, host D.L. Hughley cracked jokes about Obama. Other attendees were more flattering. Backstage, Humanitarian Award winner Quincy Jones said he wanted Obama to be elected and create a Secretary of Culture position. Actress Nia Long beamed about possible first lady Michelle Obama.

"Michelle is graceful, beautiful and not afraid to be exactly who she is," Long said backstage. "It's wonderful to see their love in the midst of all the political madness. They have something we should all be proud of. She's smart. She's educated. And she's fearless. I'd love to have tea with her one day."

One attendee used fashion to show her support for Obama. Actress-comedian Kym Whitley, who revealed she'll be appearing in a small role in the upcoming "Transformers" sequel, donned a tight purple shirt that read 'Barack Obama 08' in glittery black letters

"I don't know him, and he doesn't know me," she said. "But we're gonna make eye contact one day."

Longtime Obama supporter John Legend affirmed the importance of voting in the upcoming election: "I'll be working to make sure people get out to vote this fall."

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080625/D91H2SU00.html

[Driven1]

lol...i'm reminded of Def Leppard's "Hysteria" album...not quite the same, but still...

"Together we can do anything," she said, playing on the Democrat's "Yes We Can" mantra before shouting: "Obama y'all!"

[gatorback]

Lol.  How old is McCail?  70? Isn't 70 just to old to run?  Maybe the age score is a +1 for Obama. McCain is ancient.