7-11 Coming to Downtown?

Started by Dog Walker, August 10, 2011, 03:27:17 PM

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Dog Walker

#15
August 11, 2011, 11:09:29 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on August 11, 2011, 11:00:50 AM
^Which building is the church building? It's not one that can be moved, is it?

There are actually a couple of buildings on the property.  The old church, which is raised over a half basement and could not be converted and a new, brick meeting hall behind it which is not a contributing building.  The church building is the one closest to the streets.  There is also an attached Sunday school building that looks as if it was built at the same time as the church.

Any building can be moved, but I don't think that one could be done economically.

It has been neglected by the union and is looking rundown, but has some unique architectural elements to it.  It looks as if was a pretty grand church in its day.
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Wacca Pilatka

#16
August 11, 2011, 12:31:09 PM
If 7 Eleven goes in the Magnificat space, any idea where Magnificat will go?
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L.P. Hovercraft

#17
August 11, 2011, 12:50:36 PM Last Edit: August 11, 2011, 02:42:34 PM by L.P. Hovercraft
Quote from: thelakelander on August 11, 2011, 10:59:51 AM
I wonder if they'd be willing to open a store within the sanctuary instead of demolishing it?

+1

That would be very cool, and I'm sure would earn the goodwill of RAP.  I for one would hate to see that old church torn down to build a future convenience store/gas station or anything really--once it's gone, it's gone forever.  What the hell, why not just tear down the old fire station tower too while they're at it?
I'd much rather see that BP or Gate gas station bought out and replaced with a 7-Eleven. 

I'm actually looking forward to patronizing 7-Eleven if and when they come back to Jacksonville, but if they mess up and replace contributing structures in the historic district, they're really going to piss off a lot of people.  It's not like there isn't ANY off-ramp stucco strip mall (in soothing "Jax Beige") real estate available in town.
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Dog Walker

#18
August 11, 2011, 02:24:41 PM
Quote from: Wacca Pilatka on August 11, 2011, 12:31:09 PM
If 7 Eleven goes in the Magnificat space, any idea where Magnificat will go?

Probably out of business.  It's a thin-profit family operation.  They actually sold their house eight years ago and rented it back to raise the capital to open the Cafe.  Moving a restaurant is expensive and moving it too far away would mean building up the clientele all over again.
When all else fails hug the dog.

thelakelander

#19
August 11, 2011, 02:49:51 PM
From the tone of the original posts in this thread, it appears they won't be around long regardless of what 7-11 decides to do.
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Wacca Pilatka

#20
August 11, 2011, 03:03:34 PM
What a shame to see a nice place like that go.  Here I was excited about a net addition of businesses to downtown.
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Henry J. Klutho

Dog Walker

#21
August 11, 2011, 04:27:27 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on August 11, 2011, 02:49:51 PM
From the tone of the original posts in this thread, it appears they won't be around long regardless of what 7-11 decides to do.

???????
When all else fails hug the dog.

thelakelander

#22
August 11, 2011, 04:45:18 PM
You said his lease is up. That would mean what happens at this point is totally up to the property owner and not the business. If he does have to go, the JEDC, DVI, etc. should help them find another location, imo.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Dog Walker

#23
August 11, 2011, 05:05:04 PM
I wonder if the old coffee shop space in the library would be suitable.  The Cafe needs a full kitchen.  Did the coffee shop have space for one?
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fieldafm

#24
August 11, 2011, 05:09:21 PM
Quote from: Dog Walker on August 11, 2011, 05:05:04 PM
I wonder if the old coffee shop space in the library would be suitable.  The Cafe needs a full kitchen.  Did the coffee shop have space for one?

That is quite possibly one of the worst locations in downtown(the old Shelbys).  Hundreds of people walk past it every day but no one knows it's in there.

Downtown is about to get TWO more really good signings.

The deals that are being offered now are a VERY good thing for small business and downtown in general.  Expectation of rent is finally in line with a reasonable market rate.

thelakelander

#25
August 11, 2011, 05:28:44 PM
I agree. I wonder how difficult would it be for the city to allow signage and a full separate entrance for the old Shelby's spot?
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John P

#26
August 11, 2011, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: fieldafm on August 11, 2011, 05:09:21 PM


Downtown is about to get TWO more really good signings.

The deals that are being offered now are a VERY good thing for small business and downtown in general.  Expectation of rent is finally in line with a reasonable market rate.

Is this one? http://jacksonville.com/entertainment/food-and-dining/2011-08-11/story/fionn-maccools-open-jacksonville-landing

BigGuy219

#27
August 11, 2011, 08:06:01 PM
My prayers have been answered. I hope it's like the 7-11s back home where they sell donuts!

I'm going to re-sign my lease for another year.

Hello Slurpee my old friend.

tufsu1

#28
August 11, 2011, 09:32:49 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on August 11, 2011, 05:28:44 PM
I agree. I wonder how difficult would it be for the city to allow signage and a full separate entrance for the old Shelby's spot?

the library could not even figure out the security/alarm issue...which would allow the business to be open at different times than the library

tufsu1

#29
August 11, 2011, 09:34:42 PM
Quote from: John P on August 11, 2011, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: fieldafm on August 11, 2011, 05:09:21 PM


Downtown is about to get TWO more really good signings.

The deals that are being offered now are a VERY good thing for small business and downtown in general.  Expectation of rent is finally in line with a reasonable market rate.

Is this one? http://jacksonville.com/entertainment/food-and-dining/2011-08-11/story/fionn-maccools-open-jacksonville-landing

yep...that's the one I had heard rumored....of course, I guess this negates the Irish pub that supposedly going in last year in the old Twisted Martini space
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