Indiana Jones Kingdom of the Crystal Skull opens today!

Started by stephendare, May 22, 2008, 01:57:49 PM

stephendare

Here is the Times Union's article on the spfx for the flick.  They give a few tantalizing glimpses into the film.
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'Indiana Jones' and the computer-generated jungle
DERRIK J. LANG

SAN FRANCISCO â€" In these hallowed halls, Indiana Jones almost seems out of place.

A banner with a two-dimensional cutout of the swashbuckling archaeologist swings through the lobby of Industrial Light and Magic, where life-size replicas of Darth Vader and Bobba Fett from "Star Wars" stand guard.

The home of George Lucas' visual effects company is a high-tech temple to everything from the dinosaurs in "Jurassic Park" to the talking robots in "Transformers." But Indy can't take credit for the digital wizardry for which ILM has become famous over the last couple of decades.

Not yet, anyway. That's because he hasn't been around for 19 years, a time in which special effects has mostly migrated from soundstage to server.

The first three Indy films were gritty, sweaty and tactile affairs, largely because everything onscreen physically existed somewhere. Not so with "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" â€" though that was almost the case.

When first approaching the latest "Indy," director Steven Spielberg considered dusting off his old-school approach.

"He thought maybe we should just go back to the way we did things before, like matte paintings on glass and things like that," said visual effects supervisor Pablo Helman. "We entertained that idea for a little bit, but we realized we could serve the story better by using our digital tools."

That decision ultimately led to a filmmaking innovation that brings the random reactions of a virtual world to the big screen, giving more control to ILM's computers than ever before.

To the children romping outside at ILM's in-house daycare located just past the lobby, the notion of a digital "environment" being responsible for much of what's onscreen will probably seem quaint someday. But to the adult audiences who've glimpsed the latest Indy escapade, it's a big part of the reason this one looks so different from Jones' last crusade.

Helman, who previously worked with Spielberg on "Munich" and "War of the Worlds," was tasked with creating realistic-yet-fantastic environments and creatures for "Crystal Skull," which finds Jones traipsing from New England to New Mexico, Peru and the Amazon. Working on the "Indy" franchise for the first time was a daunting task for the low-key effects guru.

"It's horrifying to work on a movie that has this many fans, but at the same time, it's an opportunity and a challenge," Helman told The Associated Press at the ILM offices less than a week before its release. "I think we were all very, very respectful of the other three movies but also to the fans. All the effects work that we're doing are completely reality-based."

That is if your reality includes a blooming atomic mushroom cloud, seemingly endless Area 51 warehouse, vicious monkey army, the City of Gold, thousands of man-eating ants and sundry otherworldly things. All those locales and critters were created by Helman and his ILM team for "Crystal Skull," making up the film's 450 effects shots â€" not quite as many as the 600-plus in "Transformers," but more than you might expect from a flesh-and-blood character from the 1950s.

About 300 artists and editors worked for eight months in post-production on a high-tech computer network at ILM's offices inside the Presidio of San Francisco, a long way from the "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and "Temple of Doom" days, when "Indiana Jones" special effects mostly consisted of miniature sets and a few blue-screen mash-ups.

"The only reason why they weren't using computer-generated effects back then is because they weren't invented yet, but they were using the most up-to-date technology at the time," said Helman, who finished his work on "Crystal Skull" in mid-April. "So it only follows that we would do the same thing now."

In the film's biggest action sequence, Jones and company battle Russian soldiers and play hot potato with the "Crystal Skull," all while careening through a fertile Amazonian jungle riding atop military vehicles. When not dodging trees and palm fronds, the jeeps plow through enough vegetation to give an arborist heart palpitations.

"The script calls for a virgin jungle, but there's not one we could safely run four vehicles through," said Helman. "We could've approached it in a more modern way on a big stage with a blue screen, but that's not the way we did it. We basically shot it the same way we would've shot it 20 years ago."

Spielberg filmed the pursuit scene on dirt roads in a more sparse jungle in Hawaii. Helman traveled to Argentina, where he was born, and Brazil to capture images that would be used to craft the junglescape, including a looming cliff where part of the chase takes place.

At the ILM offices, Helman and his team meshed the Hawaiian footage with the Brazilian and Argentinian imagery, adding huge swathes of flora using a new digital-effects technique. The result is a fictitious jungle, one with its own look, layout and laws of physics, that only exists inside the computers at ILM.

"The whole film for us has been really big on particle simulation, which is creating an environment inside of a computer and telling the computer the rules of the world," said Helman, who also worked on two of the "Star Wars" films. "You give the computer this gravity, this mass, this amount of wind and see what happens."

That means instead of crafting movement for every vine and leaf that Indy & co. hammer through, visual effects artists were able to drag and drop virtual vegetation programmed to react to the vehicles' presence and actors' movements. It's an application that's long become de rigueur for video games, and come full circle to the big screen.

Even though they were going for something organic, Helman said the filmmakers took some liberties with the laws of physics â€" more gravity, more mass, more wind â€" to "make it more cinematic."

The result is a highly detailed chase scene that's far different from Indy's landmark escape from a giant rolling ball of a boulder in "Raiders of the Lost Ark." And it's just one of the many effects Helman and his crew created for the film.

However, there's one thing that he insists didn't receive a computer-generated makeover this time around: Indy's signature accessories.

"We did not generate whips or hats," he said, cracking a smile. "Let me tell you that."

gatorback

Harrison was on Live with Regis & Kelly today.  Looks good and still flying his helicopter.  He said he would fly to the set since it was 2.5 hours away from LA.  Wonder how much that costs to fill up.
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

gatorback

I'm dying to this this too.  You think going to see this would be a good 1st. date?
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

Driven1

my first movie date ever was "He Said, She Said".  what a sorry film.  Kevin Baco.  lol...good times. 

gatorback

#4
No doubt the fedora is back in.  Harrison was saying how much trouble they went thru making sure the fedora looked just like the 1st. one.  Could you imagine the pressure to make every stich just right. LOL

Ford was telling Regis and Kelly that his kids haven't seen any of the movies.  That his kid's friends have seen them all and now Harrison has got all these kids running around in his house wearing  fedoras. LOL
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

billbo

Quote from: stephendare on May 23, 2008, 12:59:35 AM
Im dying to see it.  I suppose I shall tomorrow night.

Any caught an early showing of it yet?

The worst Indy by far.  I'm so sick of Spielburg and Lucas it isn't even funny.  They ruined Star Wars and now they've destroyed Indiana Jones.  Don't waste your money.

assorted

Saw it last night and I hate to say it but there were moments when it was pretty hard to watch.  Hands down the worst Indy movie. 

billbo

Quote from: stephendare on May 23, 2008, 10:32:53 AM
?  what didnt you like?


Martians, bringing every character back in the movie, Indy's son, the wedding at the end, the idea that Indy's son may be the star in the next movie, the craptastic ending, and pretty much everything.  I thought the movie was going to be a stinker before I went, but I kept an opne mind.  Once Indy's son started to go through the jungle on vines I lost complete interest in everything except my sour patch kids.  I understand it's a movie and of course it can be over the top, but this was rediculous.  South park had it right, don't let George Lucas and Steven Spielburg anywhere near another one of their beloved franchises because all they do is cheapen the memory.  ::rant over::

chris

As my buddy Joe said after the movie,

"Lucas and Spielberg have now nailed the coffin of my childhood completely shut, and brought the total number of hours lost to bad sequels to 11."

Could not have said it better myself. To my knowledge there has never been a team that knew how to ruin something so mystical with such ease. I mean, come on, surviving a blast of that magnitude in a refrigerator being beaten to a pulp by the landing is a little bit too much for me to willingly suspend my disbelief... And that was just the second action sequence :'(
"Education is not preparation for life; it is life itself." - John Dewey

gatorback

You can see this. The movie is great.   We would totally recommend it to a free.  Mabo, hadn't seen any of the other Indiana Jones moview, in fact, never heard of them, are really enjoyed this one.
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

gatorback

I was happy to see Karen Allen walk back in.  She is so perfect as Indy's female side kick.  Oh, btw, Borders has Indian Jones DVD's for 20% off this weekend.
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

RiversideGator

I liked the movie also.  It wasnt the best of the series, but it was clearly better than the 2d one, Temple Of Doom, IMO.  It is a fun movie although it is a bit disturbing to see Indiana Jones looking older.  I would encourage anyone to go see it. 

gatorback

My date liked the movie as well, so this weekend we rented the 1st. three.  If Crystal Skull was you're first Indiana Jones movie, you'd be shocked to see the young indiana in the Raiders of the Lost Arc.  So, yeah, Indiana is looking a lot older but then again, he still seems to have the energy after 2 decades.  I wonder what the receipts were this weekend.
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586