Caution: LA is coming to steal your NFL team in 2011

Started by David, September 22, 2009, 01:43:27 AM

duvaldude08

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not really, this thread has taken many turns but seems to be the much needed sports outlet for Metrojax.

We've long since stopped bashing the jags and have made the run to other teams, and now it seems that Miami bashing is in order.  I'm all for it.
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Quote from: KenFSU on June 28, 2011, 03:44:14 PM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on June 28, 2011, 03:03:46 PM
Quote from: copperfiend on June 28, 2011, 01:58:34 PM
The Marlins are moving into their new ballpark next year. That will give them some extra revenue to keep their own talent and maybe even sign some free agents.
I would like to be optimistic, but I don't see a new stadium drawing and extra 35k to the ballgrounds on any given night.  Their attendence is horrible and I have no clue how the city of Miami was shammed into plunking down the millions of dollars for that stadium.

Though I think the Marlins are bound to increase attendance with a new ballpark, it's hard to be too optimistic when a Miami Heat team with Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, and Chris Bosh can't even draw full houses in an 18,000 seat arena. A terrible sports town, though with Miami's weather and plethora of entertainment options, it's not terribly surprising either.
Yes i think theres a point to a new ballpark. I went to the Mets new Citibank field and rooted the most for Mr Met!The park was great, i see no reason why the Marlin park wont be state of the art.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

I guess the biggest difference was the Mets never had a problem filling Shea Stadium, they actually had a waiting list for season tickets.  The Marlins fill Land Shark Stadium at about 20% capacity on most nights. 

Is a bigger, better park going to attract that many more people?

I think if Loria would keep his ballers and try to contend for a World Series (kinda like they won in '97 when they had the best team that money could buy)......   That's what fills a stadium.  I don't see our local AA club having any attendance problems.....
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From profootballtalk.com: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/26/l-a-moves-closer-to-downtown-stadium-nfl-teams/

QuoteL.A. moves closer to downtown stadium, NFL team(s)
Posted by Mike Florio on July 26, 2011, 11:16 AM EDT


The folks at AEG wanted to reach a so-called “Memorandum of Understanding” with the Los Angeles City Council by July 31.

They got it done with five days to spare.

Per the Los Angeles Times, an agreement on a document that keeps the downtown stadium project on track for 2016 has been reached.

“[A]pproval of this MOU will represent a critical milestone in our efforts to break ground on this project within the next year,” AEG said in a statement.  “We look forward to continuing to work with the City to take this project to the next step at the same time that we also increase our focus on other key objectives, including progressing design of the project and securing the commitments necessary to bring the NFL back to Los Angeles.”

Potential candidates for a move to L.A. include the Chargers, Bills, Vikings, and Rams.  The Raiders and 49ers also could be in play, based on the manner in which stadium efforts unfold in the Bay Area.  The Jaguars also could be in the mix, despite consistent denials from owner Wayne Weaver of any interest in moving the team or selling it.

The Vikings could move to Los Angeles â€" or anywhere else â€" after the 2011 season.  It’s the last year of their Metrodome lease.

It is believed that, eventually, two teams could land in L.A.
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duvaldude08

LOL they are too amazing. Two teams???? Yeah ok! And you see how they still tried to SQUEEZE our name in there.??? They thing is, WW is not willing to sell. However, they feel if they keep pressuring him, that he will give. And thats why they keep bringing our name up. I tell them to take their stadium and shove it!
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Thanks UL    ::)

We were trying to turn this around into a baseball thread.  Sheesh.   ;D
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duvaldude08

AEG is like an annoying telemarketer or sales person that will not go away. No matter how much you say NO. LOL but honestly buffalo is their best bet. Their owner is like 900 years old and their market is shrinking year over year. However, I think they need to leave everyone alone and wait until the NFL does another expansion.
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Tacachale

We have every reason to be worried about this. The NFL's top priority is getting football back in LA. It hardly matters to us if this LA project doesn't work in the long run; if we lose the Jags, we'll never, ever get another NFL team, or any other big league team.

The mayor needs to drop his NBA pipe dream and focus on the Jaguars immediately. He needs to decide right now exactly how much of a priority keeping the Jaguars is, and act accordingly.
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duvaldude08

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Quote from: Tacachale on July 26, 2011, 03:02:33 PM
We have every reason to be worried about this. The NFL's top priority is getting football back in LA. It hardly matters to us if this LA project doesn't work in the long run; if we lose the Jags, we'll never, ever get another NFL team, or any other big league team.

The mayor needs to drop his NBA pipe dream and focus on the Jaguars immediately. He needs to decide right now exactly how much of a priority keeping the Jaguars is, and act accordingly.
My point.... F@#k the media. They Media will talk as long as they feel. Even if something is not a story, they will make it into one. I dont buy into to the garbage. We have work to. Lets just support our team and stop worrying about what others have to say. If WW says were not moving, were not moving. Were locked into a contract until 2030. And we currently dont meet any other requirements to activate the move clause. That being said, Im not worried. The only way this teams leaves anytime soon is if WW sells. Point blank period.  And I am sure Brown will be behind the Jaguars 100%.  Selling tickets is important, and will always be important because we are a small market. We will ALWAYS have to prove we deserve a team, even if LA was not in the picutre (Whew) ok Im done :)
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ac

Mayor Brown is already stumping for Jaguars ticket sales, as of yesterday.  There's only so much he can do since, y'know, he kind of has an entire city to drag out of the ditch.

Bridges

Quote from: duvaldude08 on July 26, 2011, 03:35:56 PM
If WW says were not moving, were not moving. Were locked into a contract until 2030. And we currently dont meet any other requirements to activate the move clause. That being said, Im not worried. The only way this teams leaves anytime soon is if WW sells. Point blank period. 

This is a long thread, so I'm not sure if it's been mentioned already or not, but Weaver is mortal.  I mean, he won't live forever.  And, unless it's been mentioned before, there is no heir to the team.  Yes he loves the city, yes his legacy is tied to the Jacksonville Jaguars, yes they won't move while he owns them. 

Until we prove we deserve a team, we'll always have to prove we deserve the team.  Sellouts, consistent, in good times and bad.  That's it.  The power is with us. 
So I said to him: Arthur, Artie come on, why does the salesman have to die? Change the title; The life of a salesman. That's what people want to see.

duvaldude08

Quote from: Bridges on July 26, 2011, 03:58:11 PM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on July 26, 2011, 03:35:56 PM
If WW says were not moving, were not moving. Were locked into a contract until 2030. And we currently dont meet any other requirements to activate the move clause. That being said, Im not worried. The only way this teams leaves anytime soon is if WW sells. Point blank period. 

This is a long thread, so I'm not sure if it's been mentioned already or not, but Weaver is mortal.  I mean, he won't live forever.  And, unless it's been mentioned before, there is no heir to the team.  Yes he loves the city, yes his legacy is tied to the Jacksonville Jaguars, yes they won't move while he owns them. 

Until we prove we deserve a team, we'll always have to prove we deserve the team.  Sellouts, consistent, in good times and bad.  That's it.  The power is with us.

+100. Hey I wonder if Tony Boseli would consider being the heir, how cool would that be :)
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Tacachale

We shouldn't underestimate the threat we're facing. We can't be complacent if we really want to be a viable NFL market. We have to turn it around if we want to keep this team.

And there's plenty the mayor can and should do beyond just encouraging people to buy tickets. Yes, he does have a city to run, but this is a huge deal. I hardly think he wants to be remembered as the mayor at the time we lost the Jaguars.
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ac

Who's complacent? For the most part in this thread, we're the choir.

We can't worry about what AEG does. We can only worry over and control what we do as individuals.

The Mayor has said repeatedly he backs the team and that the Jags belong in Jacksonville.  He has publicly and privately offered his support, and I'm sure we'll hear more cheerleading as the weeks roll on.  Not sure what more he can do, since the Jaguars (for the moment) have all the commitment they need from the city financially.

The lockout ended yesterday.  Even the team has been loathe to make a hard push for tickets until yesterday because the lockout was such a touchy subject. 

Even so, they're hitting the ground running, filmed TV spots today, and have print/billboard ads ready to go as well. Touchdown Jax/Team Teal are ramping up this week.

I know 3 people who are in the Champions Club who've been selling tickets like hotcakes over the last 2 days.

Trust me, we're going to hear about tickets and supporting the team from every direction between now and the start of the season.