2010-856- Transient Vendors in Jacksonville

[Noone]

2010-856 will be back in Rules in 4 hours. Should an amendment be attached that will exempt the Waterways of our St. Johns River our American Heritage River. Yes. Palms Creek Fish Camp.

Be concerned.

[Noone]

Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting in 4 hours. Will Don Redman do anything? With him there is a shopping list of legislative action that he has immediate control over but instead is ignoring and thus leading the conspiracy to defraud the people of Jacksonville to economic opportunity to our St. Johns River out American Heritage River.

I'm concerned.

[Noone]

The June 16, 2011 Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting was another reality presentation on why we may be telling the world "Don't Visit Jacksonville!"

2010-604-Shipyards/Landmar-Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier/Jacksonville's Downtown Tradeport Pier/ Bay St. Pier Park. Councilman Redman do something!

Going straight from the minutes of the May 11, 2011 minutes that are compiled by John Jackson with the council research Division who does an awesome job. In attendance John Crescimbeni (Chair) Bill Bishop (Vice Chair) Don Redman council members. Commissioners Gary Anderson, Lane Burnett, Caryn Carreiro, Scott Shine, Stephen Swann, Penny Thompson; State Representative Lake Ray; Asst General counsel Kristina Nelson; Dr. Quinton White, Dr.Gerard Pinto, JU; Capt. Jim Suber, Waterways Coordinator;Vince Siebold,Vivian Harrell, Environmental and Compliance Department; David Kaufman,Jaxport; Neil Armingeon, St. Johns Riverkeeper; Geoffrey Sample, STRWMD; Capt. Mike Getchell, Jacksonville Marine Transportation Exchange; Joe Wilhelm, Financial News & Daily Record; Ed Lukacovic, Gary Kresel, Planning&Development; Sharonda Davis, Jessica Stephens, Legislative Services Division.

1st on the agenda was the Georgia - Pacific Pipeline Issues.

2ND on the agenda and what the people of Jacksonville should be outraged about was another cherry picked piece of legislation that had a Waterways component and its just dumb luck that it was now before Waterways and another election cycle that every 4 years allows for the opportunity to just crush the Public Trust.

The ordinance is 2011-239. Ord closing&Abandoning Heritage River Rd. at request of Riverfront Associates,LLC upon dedication by Plat to city of a two lane access road bet Heckscher Dr. & Sisters Creek Joe Carlucci Boat Ramp & Park; waive sec 122.422 (Sale of property thru real estate div. investigation of need. council action)of chapter122 (Public property) ord. code Dist.11 Holt; Hodges,OGC (Req of Mayor) (CPAC letter of opposition on file)

Mike Saylor and Carl Salafrio, were there representing Riverfront Associates LLC
Also there at the meeting from start to finish of the almost 3 hour meeting was Edward Lukacovic with the COJ Planning and Development Department. He was never asked to come up to the podium to comment on the ordinance.

For the record I didn't see Tera Meeks or Kelley Boree. Jody McDaniel was there with a FIND update.

Speakers who filled out a speaker card were allowed to speak to the legislation. Chairman Crescimbeni gets props for allowing that.

At the previous Waterways meeting it was Mr. Lukacovic's testimony that was the primary reason why a follow up meeting was necessary. That's why I was surprised that he wasn't asked to come back up.

David Kaufman with Jaxport was called up to the podium.

The possibility that a potential Public Access component of this legislation could be lost for the people of Jacksonville was the primary reason that the Commission members voted against approval. It was going to TEU and I have no idea what happened at that meeting. Does Anyone?

During  Public comment I again made my plea about the Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier that was part of Shipyards/Landmar. I also commented on another cherry picked piece of legislation that was not before Waterways   (WHY?) 2011-364 RAM and the 10 year lease for a buck a year. Mr. Crescimbeni asked me if I knew about the termination clause of 2011-364 and I said yes. Either party can terminate this agreement with 30 day notice.

So What? I didn't ask but wanted to say what about Palms Fish Camp. What about legislation for a 30 day notice with that disaster. Who is getting the promotion? Who will get fired for that $1,000,000  taxpayer bailout.

Remember 2010-675 the USS Adams didn't go before Waterways. (WHY?) One amendment.

It is my opinion that if you think for one second that we will be getting more Public Access and economic opportunity to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River we will be getting less.

Who's next?

Who wants to kayak Hogans Creek or go under the Times Union which is McCoys Creek, kayak under the Hyatt parking lot?

Special shout out to any news media outlet outside of Jacksonville.

Any commission members of FIND.

Anyone on the Jacksonville Waterways Commission.

Paul Anderson
Daniel O'Byrne
Stephen Joost
Tera Meeks
Governor Scott
Mayor elect Alvin Brown
Ron Littlepage
Roxy Tyler
Karen Brune Mathis
Steve Patterson
Joe Wilhelm
Richard Nunn we can wave to the camera when WJCT pans the river in the AM. If you can be at the beach you can be on the river. Lets Make it Happen.


Anyone want to start a 501-c?

2010-856 is still an active piece of legislation. Councilman Redman, Please offer an amendment that would exempt the Waterways of our St. Johns River our American Heritage River.

Be concerned. I'm scared to death.

[ricker]

THis bill NEEDS an amendment. OR to be squashed, crushed and shredded.

HOW do bills related to our waterways...rephrase- WATERWAYS NEEDS BIGGER REACH!

300' is where the limit stands now?

I say reduce it to 125' certainly do not extend it to 1000'!

We neeed to live in a walkable world as consumers.
maybe oneday.

This bill is crappy legislation.
Seems designed to eliminate the economic potential for any of us small business minded entrepreneurial folks.

We ALL need free public access to our waterways.
Once upon a time, these were our thoroughfares.

Noone is NOT a smoke blower, folks!

He is genuinely concerned because he may know more than you do.
thiink about it. \zoom out/

Who wins if this goes through?
If you want to open a kayak rental business and you operate out of a van/trailer?

Does this bill affect mobile food trucks?
Everything?
hot dog carts?
I need to learn more fill out my 3minute speaker card!

[Noone]

Shortly we will be telling the world
Visit Jacksonville or
Don't Visit Jacksonville
I support Downtown.
I support economic opportunity for everyone.
I oppose legislative oppression.
There are 66 other counties in Florida.
It is painful to tell the commissioners of FIND that you are not allowed to participate especially when talking about our St. Johns River our American Heritage River.
Councilman Redman offer an amendment to exempt the Waterways.

[Noone]

Food Truck Craze
Kayak Craze
Cycling Craze
Bring it on for Downtown and around the city.
Lets Get to Work.

[Ocklawaha]

Tea Party or Environmentalists should take note that if this trash continues to effect our river, walking on water will not be a miracle in Jacksonville!

OCKLAWAHA

[Noone]

Any news if this was addressed in committee meetings?
Be concerned.
Counties outside of Duval county are shaking their head.

[Noone]

The May 11, 2011 Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting was another eye opener and how will it be reported to the people of Jacksonville.

Lets start with the April 13, 2011 Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting minutes and my hats off to John J. Jackson with the Council Research Division that does an ex cellant job in capturing the minutes so we will be in compliance with the Sunshine in Florida.

At the meeting was John Crescimbeni,Bill Bishop,Don Redman all city council members. Commissioners included Gary Anderson, Lane Burnet, Caryn Carreiro, Edward Fleming, Scott Shine, Stephen Swann, OGC Kristina Nelson,Dr. Quinton White and Dr. Gerard Pinto with JU, Captain James Suber Waterways Coordinator, David Kaufman, Jaxport, Derek Busby,Geoffrey Sample with SJRWD, Gary Weise,, Dana Morton, Vince Seibold with Environmental Compliance Department, Neil Armingeon St. Johns Riverkeeper, Michael Swain, Susan Stewart, Ralph Hodges, Rob Winslow, W.T. Mauldin,JSO, Genevieve Fletcher, Doug Skiles, John Nooney, Tom Ingram, Joe Wilhelm with FNDR, Ron Littlepage with TU.

First up on the agenda was Edward Lukacovic PWS,Senior Environmental Planner, Planning & Development Department. He gave presentations on Land Use Amendments on
2011-242-
2011-243
2011-244
2011-245
2011-246

He did an ex cellant job and who is not going to vote no when it comes to Conservation.

As Mr. Lukacovic and other people that were with him were getting ready to leave Mr. Crescimbeni informed the Commission that a piece of legislation that was up for a Public hearing at the previous nights city council meeting was directed by council President Webb to be taken up the next day in Waterways and to councilman Crescimbeni's credit that is what he did. So a shout out to Mr. Lukacovic still in the audience brought him back up to the podium and the fireworks began.

The legislation is 2011-239 and they also took up 2011-240 which was not directed by council president Webb but being that it was just luck (or was it) and coincidence that you  had the Planning Dept with their recommendations on these Land Use Amendments standing there.

I don't want to spoon feed everyone on these pieces of legislation but some of these pieces of legislation are abutting the National Parks, State Parks, Preservation Parks, Tera Meeks was there and spoke to some of the concerns that Commission members are now asking and scratching their heads. And that is a good thing. Remember Tera is brand new. Kelley Boree was absent as was Jody McDaniel are they retiring?

Palms Creek Fish Camp- Who deserves the promotion?
                                    Who deserves to be fired? This is a disater and needs to be resolved before Hogan or Brown takes office. This wasn't discussed at Waterways but I'm throwing it out there.

But back to the thread 2010-856 and a one mile ban of a transient vendor. I'm a volunteer citizen on a committee reporting back to councilmembers Lee, Bishop, and my elected legislative representative Don Redman and the purpose of the committee is to seek amendments that will ultimately be attached to this still active piece of legislation.

Field, Thanks for the kind words. NM- Onward. That word just makes me think of Howard Solomon.
Looking forward to kayaking with you guys.

But just ask where will you be allowed to participate.

Ricker you still out there? The Jacksonville Marina Mile.

The next meeting of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission will be very interesting. We will have new leadership.

I pleaded with the Commission members to introduce legislation that would keep the Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier separate. Shipyards III

I also reached out and invited each commissioner to paddle Hogans Creek.

The state of Florida is watching.

Be concerned and keep score.








   

Just saw on the COJ website that 2010-856 is ready for council. I've tried to contact my city councilman Don Redman  numerous times who is single handidly in my opinion leading the conspiracy to deny the people of Jacksonville and the state of Florida to Public Access and Economic opportunity to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River.

The total destruction of the Public Trust under the new eyes and ears of the new administration and city council will be gut wrenching to watch.

2010-856 was never before Waterways. There wasn't a Waterways meeting in July. I did attend and spoke with some of the commissioners of FIND last week and shared with them an update how the Public Trust is being just destroyed in Jacksonville. Do the counties of the St. Johns River Alliance have a transient 1 mile vendor ban for their waterways of an American Heritage River?

Councilwoman Lee when she was chair of Rules was looking for amendments to attach to 2010-856. Was an amendment to exempt the Waterways of our St. Johns River our American Heritage River attached to this legislation? Councilman Redman has totally ignored my emails.

Councilman Redman is the new chair of Waterways. Next meeting is August 10, 9:30 council chambers. New council members should be absolutely outraged as well as Mayor Brown if an amendment to exempt the Waterways isn't attached. Council President Joost should send it to Waterways he has the power and authority to do so.

Palms Fish Camp, Palms Fish Camp, Palms Fish Camp,
SHIPYARDS,SHIPYARDS,SHIPYARDS
LANDMAR,LANDMAR,LANDMAR,
JAXUSA,JAXUSA,JAXUSA
JCCI-Recession, Recovery, and Beyond

VISIT JACKSONVILLE?
or
Don't VISIT JACKSONVILLE?

The entire state of FLORIDA is watching

Be concerned.

[Noone]

City council meeting tonight. Waterways meeting Wend. at 9:30 council chambers. Just heard 3 days ago on the radio of a watercraft ban for Simpsons Creek. Has this been in Waterways? Does anybody care? Where was this on the radar? 

[Noone]

The June 16, 2011 Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting was another reality presentation on why we may be telling the world "Don't Visit Jacksonville!"

2010-604-Shipyards/Landmar-Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier/Jacksonville's Downtown Tradeport Pier/ Bay St. Pier Park. Councilman Redman do something!

Going straight from the minutes of the May 11, 2011 minutes that are compiled by John Jackson with the council research Division who does an awesome job. In attendance John Crescimbeni (Chair) Bill Bishop (Vice Chair) Don Redman council members. Commissioners Gary Anderson, Lane Burnett, Caryn Carreiro, Scott Shine, Stephen Swann, Penny Thompson; State Representative Lake Ray; Asst General counsel Kristina Nelson; Dr. Quinton White, Dr.Gerard Pinto, JU; Capt. Jim Suber, Waterways Coordinator;Vince Siebold,Vivian Harrell, Environmental and Compliance Department; David Kaufman,Jaxport; Neil Armingeon, St. Johns Riverkeeper; Geoffrey Sample, STRWMD; Capt. Mike Getchell, Jacksonville Marine Transportation Exchange; Joe Wilhelm, Financial News & Daily Record; Ed Lukacovic, Gary Kresel, Planning&Development; Sharonda Davis, Jessica Stephens, Legislative Services Division.

1st on the agenda was the Georgia - Pacific Pipeline Issues.

2ND on the agenda and what the people of Jacksonville should be outraged about was another cherry picked piece of legislation that had a Waterways component and its just dumb luck that it was now before Waterways and another election cycle that every 4 years allows for the opportunity to just crush the Public Trust.

The ordinance is 2011-239. Ord closing&Abandoning Heritage River Rd. at request of Riverfront Associates,LLC upon dedication by Plat to city of a two lane access road bet Heckscher Dr. & Sisters Creek Joe Carlucci Boat Ramp & Park; waive sec 122.422 (Sale of property thru real estate div. investigation of need. council action)of chapter122 (Public property) ord. code Dist.11 Holt; Hodges,OGC (Req of Mayor) (CPAC letter of opposition on file)

Mike Saylor and Carl Salafrio, were there representing Riverfront Associates LLC
Also there at the meeting from start to finish of the almost 3 hour meeting was Edward Lukacovic with the COJ Planning and Development Department. He was never asked to come up to the podium to comment on the ordinance.

For the record I didn't see Tera Meeks or Kelley Boree. Jody McDaniel was there with a FIND update.

Speakers who filled out a speaker card were allowed to speak to the legislation. Chairman Crescimbeni gets props for allowing that.

At the previous Waterways meeting it was Mr. Lukacovic's testimony that was the primary reason why a follow up meeting was necessary. That's why I was surprised that he wasn't asked to come back up.

David Kaufman with Jaxport was called up to the podium.

The possibility that a potential Public Access component of this legislation could be lost for the people of Jacksonville was the primary reason that the Commission members voted against approval. It was going to TEU and I have no idea what happened at that meeting. Does Anyone?

During  Public comment I again made my plea about the Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier that was part of Shipyards/Landmar. I also commented on another cherry picked piece of legislation that was not before Waterways   (WHY?) 2011-364 RAM and the 10 year lease for a buck a year. Mr. Crescimbeni asked me if I knew about the termination clause of 2011-364 and I said yes. Either party can terminate this agreement with 30 day notice.

So What? I didn't ask but wanted to say what about Palms Fish Camp. What about legislation for a 30 day notice with that disaster. Who is getting the promotion? Who will get fired for that $1,000,000  taxpayer bailout.

Remember 2010-675 the USS Adams didn't go before Waterways. (WHY?) One amendment.

It is my opinion that if you think for one second that we will be getting more Public Access and economic opportunity to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River we will be getting less.

Who's next?

Who wants to kayak Hogans Creek or go under the Times Union which is McCoys Creek, kayak under the Hyatt parking lot?

Special shout out to any news media outlet outside of Jacksonville.

Any commission members of FIND.

Anyone on the Jacksonville Waterways Commission.

Paul Anderson
Daniel O'Byrne
Stephen Joost
Tera Meeks
Governor Scott
Mayor elect Alvin Brown
Ron Littlepage
Roxy Tyler
Karen Brune Mathis
Steve Patterson
Joe Wilhelm
Richard Nunn we can wave to the camera when WJCT pans the river in the AM. If you can be at the beach you can be on the river. Lets Make it Happen.


Anyone want to start a 501-c?

2010-856 is still an active piece of legislation. Councilman Redman, Please offer an amendment that would exempt the Waterways of our St. Johns River our American Heritage River.

Be concerned. I'm scared to death.

The August 10, 2011 Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting will have us all telling our Regional Partners.......Don't Visit Jacksonville!

Why wasn't there a Waterways Commission meeting in July? So cherry picked pieces of legislation could then be voted on by our city council and passed and then would not have to make it through another JWC cycle. Just destroy the Public Trust.

I'll have more on the meeting.

Shipyards III is happening.

[bobsim]

City council meeting tonight. Waterways meeting Wend. at 9:30 council chambers. Just heard 3 days ago on the radio of a watercraft ban for Simpsons Creek. Has this been in Waterways? Does anybody care? Where was this on the radar?

  My understanding is that there is an effort underway to designate Simpsons Creek as a 'no wake zone.' I have no details or info, this is just what I've heard.

[Noone]

18 days ago was the August 10, 2011 Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting and if you were there and heard the concerns and testimony of the commission members then being a resident of Duval County and a citizen of the United States in  the state of Florida you would be left with two thoughts.

1. DON'T VISIT JACKSONVILLE!

2. WTF...... Wheres The Freedom?

Going straight from the minutes of the June 15, 2011 JWC meeting. In attendance Council members John Crescimbeni Chair; Bill Bishop Vice chair; Don Redman; Commission members Lane T Burnett; Gary Anderson; Caryn Carreiro; Edward Fleming Jr.; Raymond Pringle; Scott Shine; Stephen Swann; Commissioner Penny Thomson was excused. Kristina Nelson OGC; Dr. Quinton White and Dr. Gerard Pinto Jacksonville University; Capt. Jim Suber Waterways Coordinator; Jessica Stephens Legislative Assistant; John J. Jackson Research Assistant; Dana Morton; Vince Seibold; Patricia Gee-Jones Environmental & Compliance Department; John Jones Public Works Dept; Jody McDaniel Planning and Development Dept; Geoffrey Sample SJRWMD; David Kaufman Jaxport; Joe Wilhelm; Financial News & Dailey Record; Ron Littlepage, Steve Patterson Florida Times Union; Capt. Michael Getchell Jacksonville Marine Transportation Exchange; Lad Daniels First Coast Manufactures Assoc; Neil Armingeon St Johns Riverkeeper; Traylor Champion; Mike Curtis Georgia Pacific; Michael Saylor; Carl Salafrio; Rick Haskew Riverfront Assoc.; John Nooney; Browne C Altmen; Fran Beach; Janet Pringle; Don Moore; Marc Hardesty; Kim Kendall; Joseph Moore.

So after 60 days there was only one item on the agenda. Remember there wasn't a Waterways meeting in July. The one item on the agenda was 2011-447 which was funding from FIND for an upcoming cleanup.

The true fireworks began with New Business. It started with Commissioner Scott Shine saying that he had a citizen concern, complaint, inquiry as to the status of commission member Fred Engness who has missed 9 meetings in a row. Other members were also concerned and the Commission voted unanimously to have him removed from Waterways and so there is an opening on Waterways.

Commissioner Lane Burnett was next under new business and he shared with everyone that he also had a citizen concern, inquiry, complaint as to why nobody can use the new Floating dock at RAM. Discussion between members and Capt Jim Suber Waterways Coordinator ultimately revealed that it can be only used when RAM was opened and no other time. WOW!

Another citizen concern, complaint, inquiry was brought to the concern of the commission and in fact he had filled out a speaker card and even though it wasn't on the agenda was asked to come up to the podium by new chair Don Redman. It was a decision of the chair and I can understand being new and wanting the guest to be welcome and sympathetic to a concern of a citizen.

So now its time for Comments from the Public. As my name is called and before I even get to the podium is the concern of the new chair Don Redman to make sure the 3 minute clock is on and working before I arrive to the podium. My entire presentation on what I had wanted to share with the commission members has changed especially after listening to citizen innitiated concerns.

Why have mine been ignored?

Anyway I mention to Mr. Burnett That 2011-364 RAM is an active piece of legislation and this commission can ask that they are seeking a 30 year deal for a buck a year and that you would not be out of line at all to request that this piece of legislation should be brought to your attention. You were blown off before so maybe now someone will make it right.

Another piece of cherry picked legislation 2011-239 and I just read right from the minutes of the last meeting that you guys all had concerns and you voted 9-0 to deny. Well you know what. The council voted and the legislation passed so in your face that it never came back before this commission to know if your concerns have been addressed. My understanding is that they have 5 years and given that time period every council member will be out of office and who knows who will be the new players. Remember there wasn't a July JWC meeting.

I finally get to my concern about the former Shipyards/Landmar and the Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier and this citizen concern, inquiry, complaint and then an exhuberant with one of the biggest smiles on his face was chairman Redman telling me that my time was up. Stop. Don't say anything else. Your time is up.

If our own members of The Jacksonville Waterways Commission can be kept in the total dark to back door legislative pieces of legislation you can only continue to appreciate the magnitude of how Public Access and Economic opportunity to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River will not happen in Jacksonville.

Be concerned. I'm scared to death.

Who's next?

Who wants to kayak Downtown and experience unique Urban Waterway Destinations? 

[north miami]

At least three minute allotment is plenty of time to establish legal standing if needed and that is about the only cause for attending,although I see from the attendance list many must attend out of habit.

Thank you Noone for your efforts and sharing here.
You would make a great Waterways Commission member.

What was the vision,enabling legislation that created the Waterways Commission?
What are the accomplishments,challenges ?

Fairly recently there were discussions of the need to expand the role,'power' of the Commission.What's up with that?

How much longer would have the chronic absentee member situation gone on had it not been for citizen inquiry?

Does the Commission presence enhance State FIND support?? Effective River Advocacy?

Noone,please share with us the gist of your conversations,interaction with State FIND persons.

[Noone]

Thanks NM,

I can't wait for our next trip. Especially the menu.