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Casey Anthony - NOT Guilty!

Started by Ralph W, July 05, 2011, 05:04:12 PM


ChriswUfGator

Well, it's kind of to be expected. From what I saw watching that trial, the state just didn't prove its case. The prosecution never managed to establish where she died, when she died, why she died, how she died, much less who killed her, and the forensics, despite literally inventing new areas of science, was just much ado about nothing. In the end, none of it actually tied the defendant to a criminal act. Just a lot of smoke and mirrors. All the jury was left with was a bunch of irritable attorneys with opposing theories, and they did exactly what they were supposed to do in that situation. Much to their credit, since the public pressure was enormous.


KenFSU

Yeah, I totally agree. Though the evidence points toward her being a total sociopath, the state failed to provide enough meaningful evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she murdered her daughter. I have really mixed feelings about the case. My gut certainly tells me that she probably did kill her daughter, and thus it's hard to see her walk, but on the other hand, I'm happy and actually somewhat proud that the jurors didn't allow emotion or outside influence to cloud their judgment in regards to the actual evidence, or lack thereof. Others might disagree, but I would rather five murderers walk than see one innocent person convicted of a murder they didn't commit. For better or worse, the justice system worked in this case.

danem

Quote from: KenFSU on July 05, 2011, 07:44:51 PM
Others might disagree, but I would rather five murderers walk than see one innocent person convicted of a murder they didn't commit. For better or worse, the justice system worked in this case.

I agree with that. That's basically what "innocent until proven guilty" is supposed to do.

cityimrov

Your guys arguments sound pretty nice but if that's the way things are suppose to work, why does 99% of the people I follow in Facebook/Twitter/Etc going irate about how she's guilty and how she should be careful and how justice must be done? 

About 50% of them are vocally complaining about how our Justice system is broken and how it should be fixed and politician this and that and I'm not exactly sure what they are saying but they are ready to blame somebody on it!  How does this make you think about the future of our political system? 

Duuuvalboy

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The system is screwed up because if it was a black woman or man. This case wouldn't have gotten this far. F*** this corrupted ass system it's time to fix it

acme54321

Quote from: Duuuvalboy on July 06, 2011, 04:59:48 AM
The system is screwed up because if it was a black woman or man. This case wouldn't have gotten this far. Fuck this corrupted ass system it's time to fix it

OK, I'll bite.  How about explaining how to fix the "corrupted ass system"?  Seems to have worked just like it's supposed to work.

buckethead

Quote from: Duuuvalboy on July 06, 2011, 04:59:48 AM
The system is screwed up because if it was a black woman or man. This case wouldn't have gotten this far. Fuck this corrupted ass system it's time to fix it
I agree completely.

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Ajax

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Quote from: cityimrov on July 05, 2011, 10:32:57 PM
Your guys arguments sound pretty nice but if that's the way things are suppose to work, why does 99% of the people I follow in Facebook/Twitter/Etc going irate about how she's guilty and how she should be careful and how justice must be done? 

About 50% of them are vocally complaining about how our Justice system is broken and how it should be fixed and politician this and that and I'm not exactly sure what they are saying but they are ready to blame somebody on it!  How does this make you think about the future of our political system?

That's because there are so many dimwits getting whipped into a frenzy by the likes of Geraldo Rivera and Nancy Grace.  The burden of proof is much lower in the court of public opinion. 

BridgeTroll

Quote from: ChriswUfGator on July 05, 2011, 07:37:21 PM
Well, it's kind of to be expected. From what I saw watching that trial, the state just didn't prove its case. The prosecution never managed to establish where she died, when she died, why she died, how she died, much less who killed her, and the forensics, despite literally inventing new areas of science, was just much ado about nothing. In the end, none of it actually tied the defendant to a criminal act. Just a lot of smoke and mirrors. All the jury was left with was a bunch of irritable attorneys with opposing theories, and they did exactly what they were supposed to do in that situation. Much to their credit, since the public pressure was enormous.

WooHoo!  We agree Chris!
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jaxnative

I have many reservations about the verdicts and the prosecution did a poor job on the murder charges, but I can't understand how failing to report your missing child for 30 days would not be considered some form of negligent child abuse especially with the lies about the baby sitter.

Bridges

Quote from: jaxnative on July 06, 2011, 08:27:09 AM
I have many reservations about the verdicts and the prosecution did a poor job on the murder charges, but I can't understand how failing to report your missing child for 30 days would not be considered some form of negligent child abuse especially with the lies about the baby sitter.

Cause she wasn't charged with those crimes?  Not saying it wasn't being a bad mother or even some type of child neglect, but they don't put you on trial and then decide all of the bad things you did afterwards. 
So I said to him: Arthur, Artie come on, why does the salesman have to die? Change the title; The life of a salesman. That's what people want to see.

duvaldude08

If she is innocent WHY did she keep lying about everything? All I have to say is you reap what you sow. OJ didnt go to jail for his murder's, but he eventually still ended up in jail anyway. If this woman is guilty (which I really think she is), she is not going to have a easy life at all.
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Bridges

I do keep reading people's reactions about how the "justice system is broken" and needs to be fixed.  But this case to me, is a shining example of the system working perfectly.  The system isn't designed to make sure the cops always get their man.  It's designed to protect against abuses, and injustices against the innocent.  When it was designed, it was designed with the exact idea KenFsu said, we'd rather have 10 guilty walk, than 1 innocent go in.  The opposite of that is terrifying.  That's why it isn't "are you kind of positive" or "what's more likely", it is to "prove beyond a reasonable doubt". 

The state had no evidence other than circumstantial.  They had no case to begin with.  The case built against Anthony was so bad, that even Baez couldn't mess it up, although he tried. 
So I said to him: Arthur, Artie come on, why does the salesman have to die? Change the title; The life of a salesman. That's what people want to see.

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: duvaldude08 on July 06, 2011, 08:45:28 AM
If she is innocent WHY did she keep lying about everything? All I have to say is you reap what you sow. OJ didnt go to jail for his murder's, but he eventually still ended up in jail anyway. If this woman is guilty (which I really think she is), she is not going to have a easy life at all.

Well I think it's pretty clear the girl has mental problems. During the trial, it came out that she lied to her friends and family for years before the kid ever disappeared. She would make up fake boyfriends, fake best friends, fake impressive-sounding jobs, fake vacations, etc., out of thin air, and run around telling everybody about them like it really happened. Maybe to trying impress people, I guess, or to make it seem like her life was better than it really was. Or maybe she's just a delusional person, god knows there are enough out there. But she'd been doing that kind of nonsense most of her life, it wasn't some recent thing. She did the same things with the detective that she'd been doing for years. And got busted for it, since she was (rightly) convicted of lying to an LEO. I'm just not sure you can impute a murder based on lies to a detective made by someone who's been a pathological liar for years before the murder.