Entire Antarctic Shelf splitting away from Continent.

[RiversideGator]

welcome to another fact free festival sponsored by Riverside Gator.

Actually, the article is loaded with facts.  Care to discuss any of them?  Or is it easier for you to just attack the publisher's motives?

[gatorback]

You two are talking over my head again so I went on to urbandictionary and looked up  "non-fact".
It's not defined.  Then on a whim, i looked up "nonfact".  It's not defined either.  We could be the first to define non-fact/nonfact.  So what is it.  Define it stephen.  Then Riverside gator could define it.  Here's my 2 cents:

non-fact something that a racist left wing liberal noe-con introduces into an argument moments before snapping out at anybody who has an opionion other then what is supported  by facts. lol

[gatorback]

Maybe I can interpret it for you after a while.  But for now we could just go with the obvious.  I know you see it, unless you’re pretending again. Maybe that's it.

[RiversideGator]

But sure, I would be glad to take it on, one non-fact at a time.

Waiting on this response...

[Charleston native]

Dave, the Huffington Post is more of an aggregator of news than an original source.  There is a blogroll, and those people are sometimes paid for their work, but mostly its links to the NYT, WaPo, National Review, and maybe a hundred other sites.

It has a liberal slant to it, because the editors pick and choose which articles to link to, but its not primarily a first source for news, the way the National Post is...

Well interestingly enough, the article I received was from a conservative "aggregator of news", but the main, legitimate source, Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, is an unbiased scientific organization. They initiated the survey and petition, but one thing is certain: the petition signers were hardly coerced into signing a document that can severely affect any public funding they wish to obtain. These individuals basically risk their reputation and financial gain by signing it, which tells me that their case is far stronger than a group of politico-scientists who risk nothing.

[RiversideGator]

But sure, I would be glad to take it on, one non-fact at a time.

Still waiting on this response...

[Charleston native]

But I guarantee you that the 31,000 signatures came from sign up lists for email at the conventions, not from people intentionally signing a petition...

Riiiiiiiiiight. Do you have proof of this?

[RiversideGator]

But sure, I would be glad to take it on, one non-fact at a time.

Crickets chirping......

[gatorback]

He'll follow up with a question then say your not answeing His questions and end with discussion over. Its his MO.

[RiversideGator]

Disturbing new signs of global warming...  On Jupiter:

Explanation: For about 300 years Jupiter's banded atmosphere has shown a remarkable feature to telescopic viewers, a large swirling storm system known as The Great Red Spot. In 2006, another red storm system appeared, actually seen to form as smaller whitish oval-shaped storms merged and then developed the curious reddish hue. Now, Jupiter has a third red spot, again produced from a smaller whitish storm. All three are seen in this image made from data recorded on May 9 and 10 with the Hubble Space Telescope's Wide Field and Planetary Camera 2. The spots extend above the surrounding clouds and their red color may be due to deeper material dredged up by the storms and exposed to ultraviolet light, but the exact chemical process is still unknown. For scale, the Great Red Spot has almost twice the diameter of planet Earth, making both new spots less than one Earth-diameter across. The newest red spot is on the far left (west), along the same band of clouds as the Great Red Spot and is drifting toward it. If the motion continues, the new spot will encounter the much larger storm system in August. Jupiter's recent outbreak of red spots is likely related to large scale climate change as the gas giant planet is getting warmer near the equator.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080523.html

[RiversideGator]

Stephen:  Pointing out that nor references are contained in the article is not a proper method of disputing the article.  How about picking out some of the facts cited therein and providing evidence that they are incorrect?  This would be the way to disprove it.

[Downtown Dweller]

Disturbing new signs of global warming...  On Jupiter:

Explanation: For about 300 years Jupiter's banded atmosphere has shown a remarkable feature to telescopic viewers, a large swirling storm system known as The Great Red Spot. In 2006, another red storm system appeared, actually seen to form as smaller whitish oval-shaped storms merged and then developed the curious reddish hue. Now, Jupiter has a third red spot, again produced from a smaller whitish storm. All three are seen in this image made from data recorded on May 9 and 10 with the Hubble Space Telescope's Wide Field and Planetary Camera 2. The spots extend above the surrounding clouds and their red color may be due to deeper material dredged up by the storms and exposed to ultraviolet light, but the exact chemical process is still unknown. For scale, the Great Red Spot has almost twice the diameter of planet Earth, making both new spots less than one Earth-diameter across. The newest red spot is on the far left (west), along the same band of clouds as the Great Red Spot and is drifting toward it. If the motion continues, the new spot will encounter the much larger storm system in August. Jupiter's recent outbreak of red spots is likely related to large scale climate change as the gas giant planet is getting warmer near the equator.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080523.html

Does this look like a close up of "The Scream" to anyone else?!!!

[gatorback]

no thank you stephen.

[Charleston native]

none of them have been established as 'facts'.

Anyone can pull the same trick and then force the opposing side to spend the rest of their lives on wild goose chases..

no thank you.

Yeah, it's just "a wild goose chase" to think that something like the sun has an impact on our planet and all the others in the solar system. 

[RiversideGator]

Herr Professor Midway: Please do not attempt to put words into my mouth.  Clearly there are many many differences between the Earth and Jupiter.  The one similarity though is that warming may have been detected on both planets.  Now, can you please tell us what one heat source provides warmth to both the Earth and Jupiter?