JTA making progress on transportation center

Started by iMarvin, May 16, 2011, 07:18:56 AM

JeffreyS

Is the Greyhound station now privately owned.
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duvaldude08

I'm glad to see things are moving. I just hope this is executed correctly. Jacksonville as a city always have good ideas and good intentions. But it is never executed correctly and ends up being a disaster.
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johnnyroadglide

Quote from: JeffreyS on May 17, 2011, 09:53:23 AM
Is the Greyhound station now privately owned.
Its owned by Greyhound Lines Inc, Dallas Tx.
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danno

Quote from: Ralph W on May 17, 2011, 12:43:46 AM
Peyton goes around with a couple of body guards. Do you think Brown's entourage would drive to Brown's house every morning, park their cars in his driveway, walk with him to the bus stop, ride to the office and then cool their heels with nothing but public transportation if they wanted to go somewhere in the city? Does the bus even run near Brown's neighborhood?

David Cameron beofre he became PM on Great Britan was riding his bike to work most days.  He was touting himself as been green.  Later it was found out that his aides were driving his change of clothes and his laptop and papers from his home to the Houses of Parlement every day.

Dashing Dan

Mayor Bloomberg's story is very similar.  On days that he uses transit, I think a chauffeur takes him to his subway station, and then the car goes on to City Hall.  But he does get to mingle with the riders!
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iMarvin

Greyhound terminal move progresses

Via the bizjournals:
QuoteJacksonville Mayor John Peyton is proposing that the city give land to the Jacksonville Transportation Authority for a regional transportation center initiative that will include a Greyhound terminal.
The planned $148 million transportation center near the Prime F. Osborn Convention Center will link existing modes of public transit, such as the Skyway,city buses, and Amtrak trains along with future modes like bus rapid transit services.
The City of Jacksonville originally pledged $5 million for the development of the center, but the proposition now includes the donation of city land valued at less than $5 million to JTA, according to a news releasefrom the Mayor's Office.
Under the agreement, the bus terminal property would revert to the city if a terminal isn’t constructed in three years. Other parcels will go back to the city if not developed within 10 years.
Part of the land â€" bounded by Adams, Johnson, Houston and Stuart streets â€" would house the relocated Greyhound terminal and the new intercity bus terminal.
The Mayor's legislation will be heard for review at tonight's Jacksonville City Council meeting.
http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2011/05/24/greyhound-terminal-move-progresses.html

Tacachale

Here's it is from jacksonville.com:

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Jacksonville City Hall might be helping to get Greyhound to the Prime Osborn Convention Center.



Outgoing  Mayor John Peyton is asking City Council to pass an ordinance giving 14 parcels of land around the Prime Osborn to the Jacksonville Transportation Authority. A new Greyhound bus terminal will be built on one of the parcels between Houston and Adams streets.

“This gives us an asset on hand,” said JTA spokeswoman Shannon Eller, “that will help us build the station.”

The Greyhound station would be the first step in constructing a regional transportation center at the Prime Osborn. Under JTA’s plan, bus service, commuter rail, retail stores, offices of the Florida Department of Transportation and a Jacksonville Sheriff’s substation would all exist.

Under terms of the agreement, JTA will have to build the terminal within three years or the land will revert back to the City. An agreement between JTA and Greyhound is expected to be approved at Thursday’s JTA board meeting.

Constructing the station is expected to cost about $5 million. The city had previously pledged $5 million in cash to get the entire transporation facility built, and the land swap will occur instead of JTA getting the cash.

Eller said the land is valued at between $3 and $4 million, so it benefits the city, and also benefits JTA because the land is more valuable than cash.

Peyton is asking City Council to approve this before he leaves office on July 1. City spokeswoman Misty Skipper said the schedule allows the ordinance to be heard by all necessary committees and voted on at the June 28 meeting.

For more information, read Wednesday's Times-Union.

http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/400669/larry-hannan/2011-05-24/peyton-wants-give-jta-land-around-prime-osborn-regional
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duvaldude08

Well isnt this just Dandy. And Alvin Brown is already passionate about having a new convention center, so the prime osborn will be freed up for rail to return. So once the courthouse is completed, there will be alot of shifting taking place. I am all for this as long as they get it done right.  And ole Johnny boy no so bad after. Id take peyton over Hogan any day. lol
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jcjohnpaint

I know has Peyton woke up or something?  He seems to be kicking butt recently, or just getting some good stuff done. 

jcjohnpaint

or wait...maybe he just started following MetroJacksonville

thelakelander

I guess Ock is right.  If the parcel described above must be used for Greyhound, we are still developing a transportation ranch instead of an urban compact intermodal facility.  Amtrak and commuter rail terminals will be four blocks to the south.
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iMarvin

Quote from: thelakelander on May 24, 2011, 05:15:21 PM
I guess Ock is right.  If the parcel described above must be used for Greyhound, we are still developing a transportation ranch instead of an urban compact intermodal facility.  Amtrak and commuter rail terminals will be four blocks to the south.

That's what I was thinking, but is it anyway it can be stopped and moved closer? They only have three years to build so my guess is no...

jcjohnpaint

but eventually wouldn't the entire four blocks be a transportation center from the Rail Station to the Bus Terminal?

duvaldude08

OCK,

Can you post a map. We need a visual
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tufsu1

Quote from: thelakelander on May 24, 2011, 05:15:21 PM
I guess Ock is right.  If the parcel described above must be used for Greyhound, we are still developing a transportation ranch instead of an urban compact intermodal facility.  Amtrak and commuter rail terminals will be four blocks to the south.

we need to figure out what the 15 parcels are...from what I understand, it includes mroe than the Houston-Adams area....so JTA should be able to put the bus station along Forsyth next to the Skyway.

We just need to keep on this and make sure the re-designs make sense