Who would you pick as Obama's VP?

Started by stephendare, May 09, 2008, 09:09:54 PM

Midway ®

Quoteby: Paul Schmelzer
Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 2:09:29 PM

While part of the mainstream media wasn't big on mentioning the fact in advance of his address today in Memphis, Sen. John McCain's track record on commemorating Martin Luther King Jr.'s assassination 40 years ago today is a bit complicated.

As a freshman congressman in 1983, he was among a minority of Republicans who voted against honoring King with a federal holiday, explaining later that "it was not necessary to have another federal holiday, that it cost too much money, that other presidents were not recognized." When a referendum came up in his home state of Arizona, McCain supported it, but the measure was defeated. The twists and turns continue: The state's governor at the time, a Democrat, then created the holiday through an executive order, which a few years later was rescinded by Republican governor Evan Mecham. McCain supported Mecham's decision, but later changed his mind. Another referendum on the holiday, which McCain supported, failed in Arizona in 1990; it wasn't until 1992 that Arizona OK'd a holiday for King.

In 1999, McCain said he was mistaken in that first vote in 1983, and he reiterated that postion in today's speech:

    We can be slow as well to give greatness its due, a mistake I made myself long ago when I voted against a federal holiday in memory of Dr. King. I was wrong and eventually realized that, in time to give full support for a state holiday in Arizona. We can all be a little late sometimes in doing the right thing, and Dr. King understood this about his fellow Americans.

Rev. Jesse Jackson, who was with King when he died, said of McCain's admission: "Better late than never."

Below the jump, video of McCain explaining to reporters that he really didn't understand who MLK was when he first voted against the holiday in 1983.

http://www.minnesotamonitor.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=3624

Driven1

Quote from: vicupstate on May 13, 2008, 09:41:24 AM
Many Blacks are socially conservative, 

you are right - except on abortion i find.  never have been able to figure that one out.

thelakelander

Where are you getting this information from?  Most socially conservative blacks I know don't agree with abortion.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Driven1

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Quote from: thelakelander on May 13, 2008, 02:56:35 PM
Where are you getting this information from?  Most socially conservative blacks I know don't agree with abortion.

this black lady in Washington DC (CAPITAL OF OUR COUNTRY) told me.    ;)

seriously...it was when i was up in 2000 for our Great Leader's inauguration & party.  she was in the hotel lobby & i struck up conversation with her. 

OK - all of that IS true, but that is not the reason.  generally, repubs are against the murdering of little unborn children.  and dems are for this.  it is no small secret that blacks vote dem overwhelmingly (though i will concede that this has been changing).

Eazy E

Quote from: Driven1 on May 13, 2008, 03:38:16 PM
.  generally, repubs are against the murdering of little unborn children.

Except when they're Iraqis.

Eazy E

I personally would like to see Jim Webb, Senator from Virginia as VP.  He's smart, able to refute the BS from the Repubs on the war with plain speaking and facts, and is a general bad-ass in my book.  He's articulate, has a son serving in the armed forces (I would like to think something like that wouldn't matter, but it does), and has shown he can win in a heavily GOP state. He brings the same appeal for new thinking and new policies that Obama does, and would be an awesome speaker on the stump.

Eazy E

I didn't even read the first posts, so I didn't know you had put Webb on there, Stephen-- awesome.
Also, I personally, being very liberal, would love to see Chuck Hagel, too.  He's smart, articulate, and a conservative I can respect (i.e. one who doesn't speak BS, and try to continually divide Americans against each other like Cheney, Bush, Boehner (the WORST!), DeLay, and the rest of the partisan hacks).

Driven1

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Quote from: Eazy E on May 13, 2008, 07:38:50 PM
Quote from: Driven1 on May 13, 2008, 03:38:16 PM
.  generally, repubs are against the murdering of little unborn children.

Except when they're Iraqis.

false.  we didn't force iraqi women to have abortions. 

now, i suppose you meant the killing of little children in iraq.  true...but can you hardly blame us?  those babies would have grown up and been muslim extremist terrorists that would have had as their only ambition the destruction of you and your family.  thank God for the American Republican Party.  protecting our women and children in the homeland.  whooooooo!!!!!!

now...here is another Ann Coulter pic for u...

Midway ®

The only problem with recruiting Webb would be that his seat would probably be lost to a republican as a result of his vacating it.

But he is an honest straight talking individual who seems to have a pretty strong moral and ethical compass.

Midway ®

Quote from: Driven1 on May 13, 2008, 08:05:15 PM
Quote from: Eazy E on May 13, 2008, 07:38:50 PM
Quote from: Driven1 on May 13, 2008, 03:38:16 PM
.  generally, repubs are against the murdering of little unborn children.

Except when they're Iraqis.

true.  but can you hardly blame them?  those babies would have grown up and been muslim extremist terrorists that would have had as their only ambition the destruction of you and your family.  thank God for the American Republican Party.  protecting our women and children in the homeland.  whooooooo!!!!!!

now...here is another Ann Coulter pic for u...


That's a really good picture of her. The only way it could be improved is to put a paper bag over her head. maybe 2 bags in case the first one breaks.....Hey, wait a minute.....what's that bulge in her dress?

Driven1

Quote from: Midway on May 13, 2008, 08:09:16 PM
The only problem with recruiting Webb would be that his seat would probably be lost to a republican as a result of his vacating it.

But he is an honest straight talking individual who seems to have a pretty strong moral and ethical compass.

Yes, like James Traficant, Bill Clinton & Gary Condit.

Midway ®

Oh yeah?

How many Republican pols can you name who actually have a kid in combat??

He talks the talk AND walks the walk.


Driven1

 ::) ::) ::) ::)

at least republicans believe in circumcision.

Midway ®

You can see that through that shiny dress?

Driven1

basically, the way i see it...you have TWO choices only if Obama was to become Prez...they are both women....you pick & choose....

CHOICE 1




and CHOICE 2