What is this? Alvin Brown snubbing the Tea Party request for information?

[mtraininjax]

Tit for Tat, I suppose, maybe Brown does not walk on water after all:

ALVIN BROWN Snubs tea party

Columnist Ron Littlepage's headline was "Hogan snubbing voters."
You could have fooled us. The First Coast Tea Party has reached out time and again to Alvin Brown asking for a meeting and requesting his participation in our Mayoral Town Hall. He didn't even answer our questionnaire.

He is the only mayoral candidate who refused to speak with us.

Mike Hogan is spending his time with the people, and that is the type of mayor we want - a man of the people.
The people of the First Coast Tea Party have been open and receptive to all candidates and have treated them with respect.

Not one candidate who participated in our process has a bad word to say about how they were treated.

Billie Tucker,
First Coast Tea Party, Jacksonville

[Captain Zissou]

This is ridiculous.  So Alvin Brown doesn't want to be associated with the Tea B***ers (hilarious that that word is now practically a racial slur), so what??  They're just looking for more personal information that they can use against him.  I'm glad he didn't respond.

[Lunican]

Haven't they already endorsed Hogan?

[mtraininjax]

o Alvin Brown doesn't want to be associated with the Tea B***ers (hilarious that that word is now practically a racial slur), so what??

Who said anything about racial slurs? All they requested from him was that he fill out their questionnaire. So Brown decided he did not want to have anything to do with them, that's his choice, but Brown evades groups and is not the hero that the papers make him out to be with regard to attending forums and public sparring locations.

Does anyone think that Brown would accept a debate at the local Fire or Police Unions either? Each has strong factions behind them, and the fact that Brown chose to evade the tea party shows me that he is not infallible.

[Jimmy]

Billie Tucker*, that government-hating tax fighter, is just trying to hurt Alvin Brown.  In whose eyes, I don't know.  It's been long known that her organization endorsed Mike Hogan.  In the crunch of a campaign, you go for where people are open to your message or are persuadable.  The tea party is neither open nor persuadable.  Moving on...

And yes, I think Brown would accept a debate at Police or Fire.  He has a lot of support among the rank and file of both unions.  Not enough for the endorsement, but plenty of support.  At least among people I talked to at Guns and Hoses on Saturday.


*Does not hate taxes, fees, or government while she's getting sweetheart six-figure contracts from JEA

[Jaxson]

o Alvin Brown doesn't want to be associated with the Tea B***ers (hilarious that that word is now practically a racial slur), so what??

Who said anything about racial slurs? All they requested from him was that he fill out their questionnaire. So Brown decided he did not want to have anything to do with them, that's his choice, but Brown evades groups and is not the hero that the papers make him out to be with regard to attending forums and public sparring locations.

Does anyone think that Brown would accept a debate at the local Fire or Police Unions either? Each has strong factions behind them, and the fact that Brown chose to evade the tea party shows me that he is not infallible.

And Mike Hogan agrees to meet with every group that invites him?  That is news to me.  In your rush to demonize Alvin Brown, you neglect to mention that your man is not as pure as we would all like to think. 

[mtraininjax]

At least among people I talked to at Guns and Hoses on Saturday.

We all know how we can trust talk, I have to keep going back to what happened with Audrey Moran. Everyone said she was going to do it, and that she could do it, still could in a future election, but she could not get enough of the masses.

There is going to be SOME topic that drives one campaign, it won't be meet and greets, it won't be Littlepage or Harding or Billie in the paper, there is going to be one issue that decides the campaign. It was there in Peyton/Glover (no not race), and there will be an issue that creates a 250,000 swell of voters. I don't know what its going to be, but there will be one issue that will drive someone to victory.

[Jaxson]

$64,000 Question of the Day:  How does Mike Hogan plan to work with BOTH the Tea Party folks and the public employee unions?  Are these two groups not a cross purposes?  And, if they are on opposite sides of the public debate, which of the two would accept having their interests put on the back burner in favor of the other?  Hmmmmm...

[mtraininjax]

And Mike Hogan agrees to meet with every group that invites him?

If you will check the previous posts in Politics, I think we can both agree that this issue has been brought up more than once. I was simply pointing out that Brown does choose not to attend or associate with certain groups, just the same as Hogan deciding to do the same. Brown makes similar choices, unfortunately fairness does not reign supreme on the MJ site, so I took it upon myself to make sure we all saw the editorial section in today's Times Union.

[Jaxson]

I have to agree with you on that, mtrain.  I don't fault either candidate for agreeing or not agreeing to meet with various consituent groups.  It is their choice to make the most of the limited amount of time that they have leading up to the election.  Ultimately, in my opinion, a strong candidate would be best served to reach out to as many constituent groups as possible - even if they are at odds.  Don't get me wrong, though.  I also understand that candidates do not want to find themselves in an ambush or gotcha moment from folks either.  In that case, silence may be golden.

[wsansewjs]

Billie Tucker*
*Does not hate taxes, fees, or government while she's getting sweetheart six-figure contracts from JEA

I would kindly request for a source or two to this statement.

-Josh

[Captain Zissou]

o Alvin Brown doesn't want to be associated with the Tea B***ers (hilarious that that word is now practically a racial slur), so what??

Who said anything about racial slurs? All they requested from him was that he fill out their questionnaire.

I was making reference to the practically passing of legislation to make the term "tea bagger" considered an offensive term.  People in the tea party are hypocritical and scared.  They're willing to use horrible epithets to describe everyone else, but if you make one hilarious insult toward them they freak out.

Either way, this is the pot calling the kettle black.  If I had a nickel for every group or event that Hogan snubbed in this election, I'd have enough to finance one Mullaney vote.  This is the first thing anyone can peg Alvin Brown with, so the baggers are jumping all over it.  He's not wrong for trying to distance himself from them, I think he is very right for doing it.  The tea party is a party of fear, and this is just another example.

[tufsu1]

o Alvin Brown doesn't want to be associated with the Tea B***ers (hilarious that that word is now practically a racial slur), so what??

Who said anything about racial slurs?

what, you didn't hear...The T-U will not allow posts/articles using the word Teabaggers, because it is considered a slur!

[copperfiend]

Billie Tucker*
*Does not hate taxes, fees, or government while she's getting sweetheart six-figure contracts from JEA

I would kindly request for a source or two to this statement.

-Josh

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-09-14/story/local-tea-party-leader-has-consulting-contract-jea

[Jimmy]

Billie Tucker*
*Does not hate taxes, fees, or government while she's getting sweetheart six-figure contracts from JEA

I would kindly request for a source or two to this statement.

-Josh

My memory was wrong.  It was closer to $90K - http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-09-14/story/local-tea-party-leader-has-consulting-contract-jea

Thanks to those quicker on the draw than me.