Mike Hogan's $62 Million Budget Cutting Plan

Started by Metro Jacksonville, April 14, 2011, 03:16:38 AM

CS Foltz

Mr Hogan reminds me of way back when "John Boy" first burst on the local scene! Run the City like a bussiness................yeah.............I see just where that has got us today! Gee whiz! Not sure that Mr Hogan can do any better or differently. If it's the same old same old, the movers and shakers get their normal cut off of the top then the rest of us will be just footing the bill like usual! Not good for anyone at the bottom of the food chain like must of us!

Timkin

But um...we wont even have hotdog stands on the Main Street Bridge.. With budget cuts like that, we may have to close the Bridge and row-boat across to downtown.

dougskiles

Quote from: Timkin on April 14, 2011, 06:41:09 PM
we may have to close the Bridge and row-boat across to downtown.

That sounds like a good plan!

tufsu1

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Quote from: mtraininjax on April 14, 2011, 08:14:38 AM
At lease he can call on some EXPERIENCE as the Tax Collector in the Yates Building, which houses other city offices, for some ideas on cutting expenses in the city. Poor Alvin Brown has no such experience.

look into what happened to the budget of the tax collectors office under Hogan's watch and get back to me

Timkin

Um yeah about that... Driver's license prices tripled.. Registration prices tripled , tag renewals tripled.. the Tax Collectors offices  got all kinds of upgrades (and some new locations)  and WE the taxpayers , paid for all of that .   Thank you Mr. Hogan (NOT)

Jaxson

The same folks who complain about absolute power being a corrupting force in society are the same ones who guzzle the Kool-Aid of one political party and their claims that they have all of the solutions.  We have tried it their way and former Governor Bob Graham has written as much in the St. Petersburg Times recently.  We keep giving more power to one party in our state and yet things are not improving.  Why?  I fear that we are in for another four years of stagnation and decline if we keep letting one party just run amok with our trust, our money and our future.
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Timkin


Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: Timkin on April 14, 2011, 09:38:47 PM
Um yeah about that... Driver's license prices tripled.. Registration prices tripled , tag renewals tripled.. the Tax Collectors offices  got all kinds of upgrades (and some new locations)  and WE the taxpayers , paid for all of that .   Thank you Mr. Hogan (NOT)

While I'm all for a good exaggeration, all of the state fees increased on their own, but his office did charge a service fee to use thier counter for state transactions.  So based on a nominal $2 service fee (some were more, some were only a buck) if his amount of state transactions increase to +400k, that sounds like an +$800k increase in profits.  Where did they go?
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tufsu1

agreed...the fees went up, but that is the revenue side...his office's budget went up by about 50% over 8 years...someone (mtrain) please explain?

Timkin


Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quoteagreed...the fees went up, but that is the revenue side...his office's budget went up by about 50% over 8 years...someone (mtrain) please explain?

Can't explain it.  Even in complete Right-Wing Politici - if you increase the revenue and streamline the process, the overall budget should decline.

Guess it didn't?  I wonder why not?  I have an opinion, who doesn't, but you provided additional revenue to your department and decided that since your department was bringing in all this money, it should be budgeted more.  Am I close?  The more money a department makes, then the more money a department needs to operate the next year. 

I consider myself a conservative, but that also means, IMO, profitting from your ventures, banking the money you make for a rainy day and legislating rain out of Mother Nature.  You should always have a nice cushion that you'll never need.
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mtraininjax

Quotelook into what happened to the budget of the tax collectors office under Hogan's watch and get back to me

TUFSU - Why not get off your duff and get some facts together on what Brown has done locally. Right or wrong in your mind, Hogan has more local experience. Show me I am wrong, dig up the facts on Brown and how he has, again, either right or wrong, affected citizens of Jacksonville.

Stop making this a referendum on whether to vote for Hogan or vote against Hogan. Show us that Brown is more than a big ball of hot air.
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Ocklawaha

I believe the "outsiderness" of Brown will hurt him as he seems reluctant to speak up and tell us his ideas. Vague on purpose due to ignorance of the territory isn't going to help him. Clinton isn't going to help here in Jax either.

On the other hand, Mike Hogan, mentioned a "miracle mile" or some such for downtown, then went silent and unapproachable.

What are we to calculate from this?  Mike? Alvin? You silence is killing us.


OCKLAWAHA

Jaxson

Quote from: mtraininjax on April 15, 2011, 08:49:37 AM
Quotelook into what happened to the budget of the tax collectors office under Hogan's watch and get back to me

TUFSU - Why not get off your duff and get some facts together on what Brown has done locally. Right or wrong in your mind, Hogan has more local experience. Show me I am wrong, dig up the facts on Brown and how he has, again, either right or wrong, affected citizens of Jacksonville.

Stop making this a referendum on whether to vote for Hogan or vote against Hogan. Show us that Brown is more than a big ball of hot air.

Nat Glover had more local experience than John Peyton did and who ended up getting elected?  Why does local experience all of the sudden matter now?  Just askin'!  It's just disgusting how we change our rules and standards when it is convenient...
John Louis Meeks, Jr.

tufsu1

Quote from: mtraininjax on April 15, 2011, 08:49:37 AM
Stop making this a referendum on whether to vote for Hogan or vote against Hogan. Show us that Brown is more than a big ball of hot air.

why?  That is eaxtly what this is....

Personally, I look at candidates based on whether their philosophies/platform are simimlar to mine...in that Alvin beast Hogan hands down.

Keep in mind that someone with little experience can surround himself with those who have more.