Who would you pick as Obama's VP?

Started by stephendare, May 09, 2008, 09:09:54 PM

gatorback

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Quote from: stephendare on May 09, 2008, 10:09:41 PM
explain the huge adams apple.

Oh wait a minute, come on!

You really think she's a natural woman don't you?

HA Ha hahahaha! ::)

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ROLFMO.  This is why I love this place.  On a side note, I see your point steven.  lol


Back to the focus of the thread.  What does Bill Clinton think of the Obama/Clinton ticket?  I would vote for Obama/Clinton. I said before I'll vote McCain if it's  Obama.  How old will Hillary be in 8 years?
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

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I think that Driven has seen Eqqus one time too many.

I know she has a long face, but she is not a horse!

That's just wrong!

Driven1

speaking of long faces...  Why the long face John? 



OH!!  That's right...you were beat by one of the best presidents EVER!!!!!

RiversideGator

Quote from: thelakelander on May 10, 2008, 08:06:38 AM
I'd take Bill Richardson.  Demographics in this country have evolved.  Anyone who can pull hard from the black and hispanic population would be difficult to overcome, imo.

Considering that hispanics are currently just 7% of likely voters and blacks are 11% of likely voters, I think such an overt racial appeal is not wise politically.  See page 49 for charts:

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/rc/reports/2008/0227_demographics_frey/0227_demographics_paper%20_and%20_table_frey.pdf

thelakelander

I believe he'll be able to pull a significant amount of Americans on policy alone.   As far as my early statement I was thinking more in terms of something that could help tip the scales, although I could be completely wrong.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

RiversideGator

He needs to run on policy alone.  Blacks will vote for him anyway out of their ties to the Dem party and probably racial solidarity.  He does not want to turn the election into a racial referendum.  I think he has run a non-racial campaign thus far BTW.  Others have attempted to inject race into it but I dont think Obama has.

RiversideGator

To answer the question though, if I were picking for Obama I would pick someone like Evan Bayh, a moderate red state Dem who now supports Hillary but would help appeal to moderates in the general.  I hope he picks another liberal though as this will probably doom his chances.   

thelakelander

Quote from: RiversideGator on May 11, 2008, 12:58:39 AM
He needs to run on policy alone.  Blacks will vote for him anyway out of their ties to the Dem party and probably racial solidarity.  He does not want to turn the election into a racial referendum.  I think he has run a non-racial campaign thus far BTW.  Others have attempted to inject race into it but I dont think Obama has.

Fair point.  It would be nice to see this upcoming race between McCain and Obama (I'm assuming Billary is done) focus heavily on policy.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Driven1

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i actually agree with the author on this stephendare.  like them, i also believe the leftwing policies that define the current Democratic movement, such as anti-life, pro-gay, anti-2nd amendment, will never truly catch on like wildfire in the south.

Driven1

remember where Ms. Edwards is pulling sources from her story from though...  Seattle.  to be genuine, you must consider this before drawing any extrapolated conclusions (as Ms. Edwards errantly does) that would apply across the U.S.  Seattle is definitely not Ohio - or N. Carolina or Texas or Florida or Arizona. 

RiversideGator

Quote from: stephendare on May 11, 2008, 04:02:42 PM
The Washingtonian is speculating on a possible Obama Cabinet.  Most of these names are unfamiliar, so its a pretty good time to start learning them for the election.  Presidencies are administrations and not just the individual that you vote for the top spot.

http://www.washingtonian.com/blogarticles/7641.html

Already speculating on the Obama cabinet?  Talk about counting chickens before they hatch.  There are still the little matters of (1) winning the Dem nomination and (2) winning the general election.  I wouldnt start measuring for drapes in the White House quite yet.   :D :D

RiversideGator

Quote from: thelakelander on May 11, 2008, 01:12:08 AM
Fair point.  It would be nice to see this upcoming race between McCain and Obama (I'm assuming Billary is done) focus heavily on policy.

Which issues draw you to Obama the most (over say Hillary Clinton or McCain)?

RiversideGator

BTW Stephen, I cant recall who served as Dukakis' Secretary of State.  Can you refresh my memory on this please?   ;D

Ocklawaha

Since Che, Joseph, Fidel and Nero are all dead or nearly so... All I can think of is a party jump and PEYTON for VP. Obama-Peyton has a certain ring to it.

Perhaps Angela Davis is still around? Jane Fonda?


Ocklawaha

thelakelander

Quote from: RiversideGator on May 11, 2008, 08:45:16 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on May 11, 2008, 01:12:08 AM
Fair point.  It would be nice to see this upcoming race between McCain and Obama (I'm assuming Billary is done) focus heavily on policy.

Which issues draw you to Obama the most (over say Hillary Clinton or McCain)?

Since I'm not a Democrat or Republican, I guess I'm one of those Independents these guys hope to sway one way or the other.

Obama and Billary, platform wise, are about the same.  However, I've already seen 8 years of the Clintons and I'm disappointed in the way she's ran her campaign.  With Billary, there's a "been there, done that" feeling in my bones.

With McCain, I have serious concerns about the economy, mass transit funding and Iraq.  However, if he won, I wouldn't lose much sleep because he's about as moderate of a Republican as they come.  The last thing I want is an ultra conservative Bible thumper in the White House right now.

I agree with Obama's position with the war in Iraq and I would like to see some of the money flowing over there, redirected back to the US to deal with our own domestic problems.  Since we also are forced with this two party system, a switch every eight years or so helps us from going completely right or left.  Obama is not the best thing since sliced bread, but I don't believe he can be any worse than the current Administration.

"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali