Five Reasons why Alvin Brown could pull the Upset

Started by Metro Jacksonville, April 05, 2011, 06:00:32 AM

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mtraininjax

#45
April 08, 2011, 09:04:12 AM
QuoteAnyone who wants the Jaguars to be in Jacksonville blows Mike Hogan out of the water.

Yeah, well, I got 19 council members who will fight you tooth and nail over that statement! Anything Jaguar related, the Mayor does, has to be approved by the Council. Plus, Hogan could change his mind too, it does happen, even on MJ!  :o
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

JeffreyS

#46
April 08, 2011, 10:11:04 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 08, 2011, 09:04:12 AM
QuoteAnyone who wants the Jaguars to be in Jacksonville blows Mike Hogan out of the water.

Yeah, well, I got 19 council members who will fight you tooth and nail over that statement! Anything Jaguar related, the Mayor does, has to be approved by the Council. Plus, Hogan could change his mind too, it does happen, even on MJ!  :o

True but the next Mayor may need to be a sales man to the next group of Jaguar ownership and I would prefer a true dyed in the wool Jag over either of the candidates.  I really do not want someone who has taken the position of we do not need them in the past.  I wonder if people see this as a possible issue.  If Mike were to get into serious negotiations with a new group would he be willing to let the Jags leave if things get rough. I want someone who is 100% in it to convince them to stay.
Lenny Smash

JeffreyS

#47
April 08, 2011, 10:12:39 AM
I would like to see this asked of the candidates at a debate.
Lenny Smash

fsujax

#48
April 08, 2011, 10:16:24 AM
I wish Audrey had brought it up. Honestly, it was one of the things that turned me off about Hogan. I love the Jags...and I couldn't believe that he would have voted against the stadium deal that helped to bring the team to Jax.

Timkin

#49
April 08, 2011, 10:50:08 AM
Hell, he'd probably sell the stadium too

Timkin

#50
April 08, 2011, 10:51:44 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 08, 2011, 09:04:12 AM
QuoteAnyone who wants the Jaguars to be in Jacksonville blows Mike Hogan out of the water.

Yeah, well, I got 19 council members who will fight you tooth and nail over that statement! Anything Jaguar related, the Mayor does, has to be approved by the Council. Plus, Hogan could change his mind too, it does happen, even on MJ!  :o

Yeh well you just go get your 19 council members to do that.   Woooooooooooooooooo  ..really skeered 

buckethead

#51
April 08, 2011, 10:54:03 AM
I am a diehard Jags fan, And I do not hold the Stadium vote against Hogan.

Not every citizen, perhaps not even a majority, would have been in favor of funding a stadium to bring an NFL franchise.

One can argue whether the team would generate revenue that would ultimately give taxpayers a roi, but I'm not convinced it is quite that simple.

I am not a fan of the way NFL franchises can hold a city hostage to get what they want.

Do I want to keep the Jags? Absolutely.

I do believe a mayor as well as a city council will need to play a bit of poker so the city isn't fleeced for the sake of a franchise. (I'm not accusing WW or anyone at Jags HQ of intending to fleece Jax) A mayor certainly shouldn't go into a negotiation with a predetermined and publicly announced policy of "whatever it takes to keep the franchise happy".

It's a big boy bidness, and the mayor needs to be prepared to play hardball. (not reckless abandon, however)

JeffreyS

#52
April 08, 2011, 01:49:49 PM
I think it is pretty obvious the scope of what the Jags do for the metro far outweighs what they may get in stadium perks.  Let's at least make them feel wanted.  His vote on the stadium deal shows a lack of insight into sometimes you invest for returns.  I am worried all he knows is what he says cut spending to save money and cut taxes to make money.  Those things work if you are overspending and overtaxing.  Sometimes however it takes a little more leadership and understanding of what is going on than that.
Lenny Smash

danem

#53
May 17, 2011, 04:02:33 PM
Can he do it? I can't wait to see.

I think this thread needed to be bumped up too... ;)

urbaknight

#54
May 18, 2011, 02:34:51 PM
It's way too close for comfort, Alvin is leading by 600 votes or so.

JeffreyS

#55
May 18, 2011, 02:37:42 PM
585 now
Lenny Smash

Wacca Pilatka

#56
May 18, 2011, 02:42:24 PM
Quote from: buckethead on April 08, 2011, 10:54:03 AM
I am a diehard Jags fan, And I do not hold the Stadium vote against Hogan.

I find Hogan's refusal to buy season tickets more offensive as a Jags fan.  Alvin has them.  Shoot, I have them and I live 600 miles away.
The tourist would realize at once that he had struck the Land of Flowers - the City Beautiful!

Henry J. Klutho

urbaknight

#57
May 18, 2011, 02:47:15 PM
I really hope they do not do a recount. It cost about 100 grand; and Hogan"s camp may be able to rig it to his favor. Remember what happened in 2000 down in dade county? I forsee the same thing being allowed ho happen here and now! Let's pray that it doesn't.

Hogan would probably cut more from education or entitlements to pay for the recount.

Coolyfett

#58
May 18, 2011, 06:34:55 PM
Quote from: urbaknight on May 18, 2011, 02:47:15 PM
I really hope they do not do a recount. It cost about 100 grand; and Hogan"s camp may be able to rig it to his favor. Remember what happened in 2000 down in dade county? I forsee the same thing being allowed ho happen here and now! Let's pray that it doesn't.

Hogan would probably cut more from education or entitlements to pay for the recount.
Some entitlements need to be cut, but right now Brown seems to be in a good position to win.
Mike Hogan Destruction Eruption!

Timkin

#59
May 18, 2011, 06:39:40 PM
Is that now official Stephen ????????? OMG please say yes
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