Mullaney endorses Hogan

[hillary supporter]

mtrain, that would make you wrong.  I'm a Duval Democrat and I was for a Republican in the first election.  The local party has not the discipline or clout necessary to make its ranks walk in formation.  

I'll say here what I said earlier at the TU.

Sounds about right. Mullaney spent a lot of time going after Hogan's voters. Now he's sending his supporters home to Mike Hogan.

Fingers crossed that Audrey Moran will endorse Alvin Brown - soon. That would also be about right. And could well give Mr. Brown the edge on May 17.

So what? Moran endorsing Brown will vindicate all republicans who said she was a democrat anyway. Those who voted for her believed in her democratic ways. I AM a registered Democrat and I voted for Hogan because I could not stand any of the other candidates. Nothing has changed. Brown has nothing to run on publicly. Until he comes out and FIGHTS for a position, he is a bag of hot air. Hogan said he won't raise taxes, good enough for me.

His defeat of the other candidates gives him everything to run on. He got that position through hard political work and strategy that all here recognize. i wont put words in your mouth by calling that a fight.
Are you seriously happy as a democrat, a duval democrat? If you are,then you are disillusioned with their liberalism, or should i say special interests! Anyhow, you will have no loyality oaths  to confront!

[vicupstate]

He can't win in his own party, what makes anyone think he can win with help from Republicans,

Huh?? He won the overwhelming majority of the votes cast for ANY Democrat? He had solid backing from the party hierarchy, such as it, even in the primary.  Please elaborate.

when Hogan is a safe choice to preserve their way of life in status quo?

Are you HAPPY with the status quo, falling further behind 90% of the major cities in the South, and the majority in the country?

Hogan is much more reserved than Peyton was, he was a bad experiment, and we all paid for it.

A bad experiment, much like Rick Scott is turning into.  Hogan is Peyton (remember HIS pledge to not raise taxes) part 2.

Hogan is simply a mid-level manager with no proven leadership ability, just like Peyton was, only Peyton's management was private sector.   

Moran was Peyton-esque, which probably hurt her more than helped her. No one wants 4-8 more years like him.

That is an insult. She was more of Delaney 2 than anything having to do with Peyton. Name one thing she shared in common with Peyton.

[tufsu1]

mtrain...Audrey has not endorsed Alvin Brown....and if she supports/endorses him, it proves that the candidate and their platform are more important to her than the party they represent!

which, btw, is why this long-time Democrat supported her and other Republicans in the first election

[Jaxson]

Some might call it a loyalty oath (sounds like a cult)

Some would say the same thing about the Liberal Left.

I remember that Bill Clinton said it pretty well when he said that Democrats want to fall in love with a candidate - Republicans simply fall in line. 
I agree with previous posters that the Duval Democrats are not in any kind of position to force their ranks to toe the line.  The GOP has enough pull in Tallahassee for them to be able to reward their faithful guys and gals with promises of safe seats in the state legislature.  Remember one guy who agreed to drop out of the mayor's race back in 2007 in exchange for a shot at a seat in the state House of Representatives?
Besides, take a look at the most recent chairs of the Duval Democrats and compare them to the previous chairs of the Duval Republicans.  I would argue that the Duval Democrats have not been known for having strong leaders in recent memory.
What does this leave us with?  We have a candidate for mayor who is pretty much in this race on his own because he does not have the luxury of a strong political party structure, of endless amounts of money and fundraising, of state and local elected officials to back him up or having a powerful church behind him.

[hillary supporter]

This thread is saying an incredible amount about the politics of both parties in Jax, but particularly the republican party, the dominate party for many years. Its good to hear dissention in the party. Not from a democratic point of view, just to hear a progressive side, a shift towards the center. ( I didnt say left! 

[Captain Zissou]

Moran was Peyton-esque, which probably hurt her more than helped her. No one wants 4-8 more years like him.

I think this is extremely inaccurate.  Audrey has vision, leadership ability, poise, intelligence, and a great love for the city.  I would not argue that Peyton had any of those qualities.  I hope Audrey will do our city the favor of running again in 4 years. 

[Doctor_K]

Mullaney is buying insurance for a future run for public office.  If he didn't endorse Hogan, he would probably be a black sheep for life in the Republican Party.  I have heard from insiders that the party has zero tolerance for its members (publicly) supporting anyone but Republicans and violators are banished to wherever disfavored Republicans go. Some might call it a loyalty oath (sounds like a cult).  It appears to me to be at least "party cleansing."

That being said, the inner-skeptic in me thinks Moran WON'T come out and endorse Brown for that reason.  She might have vision and all (which I firmly believe), but she's still a budding politician.  She'll endorse Hogan because she's a Republican and might want to run for office again.  She'll be unsuccessful without the backing of one of the two parties in her next potential run.

I can't imagine she'd want to lose that backing.

[Jaxson]

Mullaney is buying insurance for a future run for public office.  If he didn't endorse Hogan, he would probably be a black sheep for life in the Republican Party.  I have heard from insiders that the party has zero tolerance for its members (publicly) supporting anyone but Republicans and violators are banished to wherever disfavored Republicans go. Some might call it a loyalty oath (sounds like a cult).  It appears to me to be at least "party cleansing."

That being said, the inner-skeptic in me thinks Moran WON'T come out and endorse Brown for that reason.  She might have vision and all (which I firmly believe), but she's still a budding politician.  She'll endorse Hogan because she's a Republican and might want to run for office again.  She'll be unsuccessful without the backing of one of the two parties in her next potential run.

I can't imagine she'd want to lose that backing.

If Audrey Moran truly wants to change politics for the better, she will avoid being yet another party hack.  We have enough of them in this town to fill a stadium!

[tufsu1]

I seriously doubt that Audrey will endorse Hogan...what is far more likely is that she'll sit quietly on the sideline.

[mtraininjax]

I think this is extremely inaccurate.  Audrey has vision, leadership ability, poise, intelligence, and a great love for the city.  I would not argue that Peyton had any of those qualities.  I hope Audrey will do our city the favor of running again in 4 years. 

She may have vision, leadership, walk on water in her spare time, but the voters did not see it and either she did not convey her positions effectively enough or maybe she would be better suited to take up a City Council race and let voters see her leadership skills in city government from the council bench.

When was the last time we saw a city councilperson become Mayor? Someone who went from the year before as a council member to mayor? Maybe Stephen can dig that out. That would be interesting to know. Sure has seemed like its a been a while.

[Timkin]

Perhaps you should run, M... you seem to know everything about everything

[mtraininjax]

Perhaps you should run, M... you seem to know everything about everything

What, and miss all of this fun? Never. Besides, if everyone on the board agreed with everyone, it would be like camp and what fun would that be?

[Timkin]

true that.. but you seem to know more than anyone

[mtraininjax]

true that.. but you seem to know more than anyone

Not more than Stephen, for he knows all! 

[mtraininjax]

Wow, Jake was a long time ago. Could it happen again? Or do we have to wait another 30+ years for it to occur?