Five Reasons why Alvin Brown could pull the Upset

[wsansewjs]

try this one out...

there were rumors after the first election that Hogan supporters actually cast ballots for Alvin with the hope that their man didn't have to face Audrey or Rick in the runoff....if true, it is sad but not really a big deal.

but there may be more to the story...it now appears that the Hogan campaign may have bussed some folks (primarily on the northside) to the polls....those people likely cast ballots for Alvin Brown...and then they were driven to a local restaurant for free lunch/dinner.

While not illegal, if this is true, it could be really bad publicity for Mr. Hogan.

That would be fantastic spoiler to whole local politic scene.

-Josh

[FayeforCure]

Seriously in the lesser of all evils, I am sold and would go for Brown.

I know, I know, I know, you can throw dung at me for saying 'the lesser of all evils'. Hogan is a nice guy and someone I would love to have a glass of sweet tea with extra ice and lemon during the hot afternoon on the porch in the rocking chair, but he is a nightmare in politics.

-Josh

Hey Josh, when I asked some ladies at my local Starbucks why they voted for Rick Scott, they said they'd met him and thought he was "nice." This was on election day when polls had already closed.

I'm sure they are having second thoughts about that now.

How many times are people fooled into thinking a guy is "nice," and then see the disasterous direction these people take out country (Bush), our state (tricky ricky), and our city (Peyton)

And it's not even that these people had such a good track record to begin with.(Peyton didn't have any)

Accountability and competence should be more than just side-issues.

Anybody running will ACT "nice," and/or even be nice. It's a crappy thing to base your vote on, when so much is at stake.

My only hope is that the letter R isn't what people use to base their votes on, because it is an equally crappy way to decide the future of our city.

Disclaimer, I cannot vote in Duval county and would have voted for Audrey Moran in the open primary.

Because cross-over voting is uniquely American: after all, WE ARE ONE!!!

[futurejax]

I dont understanding his voting against those things. I do not know why it wasnt brought in the primary!

I loved Audrey but her campaign made some serious strategic mistakes.  

1.  Never respond to attacks from someone running BEHIND you in the polls, politics and mktg 101 (ie, Coke will never mention Pepsi)

2.  That said if you're gonna launch attacks, attack the leader MIKE HOGAN,  and there was a lot of material to work with obviously

3.  And this could easily have been number one.  JOBS, this should be the number one mantra of any candidate right now and shockingly there was a space in the race to be the one hammering the message.  She didn't do it (at least sufficiently enough)

#3 Should be Brown's mojo the whole way. While Hogan fights for the 2nd amendment, (how daring fighting for part of the constitution), Brown can fight for things like jobs and quality of life for actual Jax residents.  One SHOULD be a more appealing message, I repeat SHOULD BE.

[wsansewjs]

Seriously in the lesser of all evils, I am sold and would go for Brown.

I know, I know, I know, you can throw dung at me for saying 'the lesser of all evils'. Hogan is a nice guy and someone I would love to have a glass of sweet tea with extra ice and lemon during the hot afternoon on the porch in the rocking chair, but he is a nightmare in politics.

-Josh

Hey Josh, when I asked some ladies at my local Starbucks why they voted for Rick Scott, they said they'd met him and thought he was "nice." This was on election day when polls had already closed.

I'm sure they are having second thoughts about that now.

How many times are people fooled into thinking a guy is "nice," and then see the disasterous direction these people take out country (Bush), our state (tricky ricky), and our city (Peyton)

And it's not even that these people had such a good track record to begin with.(Peyton didn't have any)

Accountability and competence should be more than just side-issues.

Anybody running will ACT "nice," and/or even be nice. It's a crappy thing to base your vote on, when so much is at stake.

My only hope is that the letter R isn't what people use to base their votes on, because it is an equally crappy way to decide the future of our city.

Disclaimer, I cannot vote in Duval county and would have voted for Audrey Moran in the open primary.

Because cross-over voting is uniquely American: after all, WE ARE ONE!!!

Haha, I totally agree with you, Faye.

Just for the record, I never would base my vote on some politician's nice and easygoing personality.

-Josh

[FayeforCure]

I dont understanding his voting against those things. I do not know why it wasnt brought in the primary!

I loved Audrey but her campaign made some serious strategic mistakes.  

1.  Never respond to attacks from someone running BEHIND you in the polls, politics and mktg 101 (ie, Coke will never mention Pepsi)

2.  That said if you're gonna launch attacks, attack the leader MIKE HOGAN,  and there was a lot of material to work with obviously

3.  And this could easily have been number one.  JOBS, this should be the number one mantra of any candidate right now and shockingly there was a space in the race to be the one hammering the message.  She didn't do it (at least sufficiently enough)

#3 Should be Brown's mojo the whole way. While Hogan fights for the 2nd amendment, (how daring fighting for part of the constitution), Brown can fight for things like jobs and quality of life for actual Jax residents.  One SHOULD be a more appealing message, I repeat SHOULD BE.

I like all of your points.

In marketing 101, my second major, we also learned that words matter.

There is a huge difference between:

Could Pull the Upset

and

Five Reasons why (same old, sameold) Will Be Our Next Mayor

Let's level the playing field here to at least:

Five Reasons why Alvin Brown could CAN pull the Upset to Become Mayor of Jacksonville

[A-Finnius]

This was before my time in Jacksonville, but seriously Hogan voted against the Historic District and the Jaguars???

[urbaknight]

Since his joke about bombing abortion clinics made national news, if he wins, that'll be another negative for us. Why would anyone want to visit an seemingly small minded, intolerant town? That's what much of the country would think if we had such a leader. That means, less revenue from visitors, less visitors.

                                 !!!WAKE UP JACKSONVILLE!!!

[Timkin]

Seriously in the lesser of all evils, I am sold and would go for Brown.

I know, I know, I know, you can throw dung at me for saying 'the lesser of all evils'. Hogan is a nice guy and someone I would love to have a glass of sweet tea with extra ice and lemon during the hot afternoon on the porch in the rocking chair, but he is a nightmare in politics.

-Josh

Well put.  +1

[PeeJayEss]

I fail to see how you will get any sort of progress on Hogans Creek, the St Johns, or a downtown public water access with Hogan as mayor. He hasn't stated that he would do those things. And if we're trying to read into the issue based off his policy, politics, campaign, or debates, one should draw quite the opposite conclusion. I can't say whether he will be bad for the city as a whole. But in terms of cleaner, more accessible waterways, support of Hogan seems truly delusional. I bet the first thing he does is force Georgia Pacific to stop polluting the river (now where is that sarcasm font ).

[lewyn]

I don't think people pay enough attention for Brown's speaking ability etc to matter- the fact that Hogan didn't suffer for his absenteeism from debates shows that most voters aren't aware of their existence.

[tayana42]

I was a donor for and voted for Audrey Moran.  I did not believe Alvin Brown had enough local involvement or recognition to be elected and so did not give him adequate consideration.  I am impressed with his public persona and speaking ability....both very important for both the election and the job.  I am now moving to the alvin Brown camp.

[hillary supporter]

I don't think people pay enough attention for Brown's speaking ability etc to matter- the fact that Hogan didn't suffer for his absenteeism from debates shows that most voters aren't aware of their existence.

I believe this. Ive said earlier, these two candidates are so far apart, they are complete opposites. Its a matter of getting your supporters to vote. Ander Crenshaw has been doing such his whole career, ducking democratic contenders. President Reagan looked awful against President Carter, but the country was so decisively split in two, that Reagan landslid into office. And this has already been key for Hogans success this past election.

[danem]

I was a donor for and voted for Audrey Moran.  I did not believe Alvin Brown had enough local involvement or recognition to be elected and so did not give him adequate consideration.  I am impressed with his public persona and speaking ability....both very important for both the election and the job.  I am now moving to the alvin Brown camp.

I was "with Audrey" before, but during the debates I definitely liked what Alvin Brown had to say in all of them. He's definitely worth a look for all Moran supporters and thankfully his website issue list is on actual Mayor issues.

[FayeforCure]

I was a donor for and voted for Audrey Moran.  I did not believe Alvin Brown had enough local involvement or recognition to be elected and so did not give him adequate consideration.  I am impressed with his public persona and speaking ability....both very important for both the election and the job.  I am now moving to the alvin Brown camp.

I was "with Audrey" before, but during the debates I definitely liked what Alvin Brown had to say in all of them. He's definitely worth a look for all Moran supporters and thankfully his website issue list is on actual Mayor issues.

Yeah, mostly about creating jobs, which should be a VERY high priority!!

It's not just Hogan's joke about bombing abortion clinics making national news, it's all the other VERY questionable stuff Hogans' been up to:

He was also among several political leaders and First Baptist Church worshipers who cautiously supported the Rev. Jerry Vines' 2002 inflammatory public statements about Islam's founder, Muhammad, who Vines referred to as a "demon-possessed pedophile."

"If my pastor said it, I have to believe that it's absolutely correct," Hogan said at the time.

Hogan also noted more than once on City Council letterhead that faith was a key in governance.

"I believe it very important that the church play a more visible role in the political affairs of our government," he wrote to one pastor, thanking him for letting his church be used for a town meeting.

One bill Hogan got significant publicity for in his three years in the Legislature was an unsuccessful push to display the state's "In God We Trust" motto in public schools.



Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://culfwww.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2011-02-20/story/profile-jacksonville-mayoral-candidate-mike-hogan#ixzz1IgbEsuD1

[futurejax]

I was a donor for and voted for Audrey Moran.  I did not believe Alvin Brown had enough local involvement or recognition to be elected and so did not give him adequate consideration.  I am impressed with his public persona and speaking ability....both very important for both the election and the job.  I am now moving to the alvin Brown camp.

I was "with Audrey" before, but during the debates I definitely liked what Alvin Brown had to say in all of them. He's definitely worth a look for all Moran supporters and thankfully his website issue list is on actual Mayor issues.

Yeah, mostly about creating jobs, which should be a VERY high priority!!

It's not just Hogan's joke about bombing abortion clinics making national news, it's all the other VERY questionable stuff Hogans' been up to:

He was also among several political leaders and First Baptist Church worshipers who cautiously supported the Rev. Jerry Vines' 2002 inflammatory public statements about Islam's founder, Muhammad, who Vines referred to as a "demon-possessed pedophile."

"If my pastor said it, I have to believe that it's absolutely correct," Hogan said at the time.

Hogan also noted more than once on City Council letterhead that faith was a key in governance.

"I believe it very important that the church play a more visible role in the political affairs of our government," he wrote to one pastor, thanking him for letting his church be used for a town meeting.[/b]

One bill Hogan got significant publicity for in his three years in the Legislature was an unsuccessful push to display the state's "In God We Trust" motto in public schools.



Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://culfwww.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2011-02-20/story/profile-jacksonville-mayoral-candidate-mike-hogan#ixzz1IgbEsuD1

Well it's clear he really learned to think for himself with that zoology degree.  One possible benefit of a Hogan mayoral term, Quran burnings!  (G-ville won't be cornering the market on this money maker anymore)  AND, we've now got the world's biggest courthouse.  Perfect place to hold this wicked book accountable for it's crimes.