REPUBLICAN FOR BROWN

[BridgeTroll]

I would like to know why Bill Clinton called my house yesterday...

[tufsu1]

compared to Hogans over 2,000 likes. gag!

wait...Hogan's people know how to use Facebook?

[Jaxson]

One reason why the GOP has such a strong hold on Jacksonvlle (and the South) is because they have managed to nationalize the politics.  I know many people who will not vote Democrat because they blindly assume that local Dems support the more liberal tenets of the Democat's national platform.  This is why Blue Dog Democrats are more successful than the rest of their party when it comes to running for office in the South.  The Blue Dogs successfully disassociate themselves from the social issues that would otherwise scare away conservative voters. 
Alvin Brown would benefit from linking himself to the former president, whose presidency demonstrates the perils of governing from the Left but learned from his mistakes to win reelection in 1996.

[mtraininjax]

One reason why the GOP has such a strong hold on Jacksonvlle (and the South) is because they have managed to nationalize the politics.

I agree with you!

Actually Brown would do better to move away from the Union shots, like he had last night with the IBEW. The south is not as unionized as the north. The growth of southern states at the expense of northern states shows, to me, that there are more small businesses started by people in the south, where labor laws are less rigid. The Blue Dog Democrats are PRO-Business, and they realize, even in the northern states that the southern states are kicking their butts for people and jobs, Texas has the strongest economy of any state in the union, and these dems realize that they better adapt and change, or they will continue to lose more people.

I do not think Brown can win, but it all depends on if the Dems come out to vote for their member. 8 years ago, they did not come out and vote for Glover, but we were riding an economic recovery in 2003. Now we are riding a democratic revolt. Maybe the Democrats can't catch a break, but the tape of economic recovery shows he has a rough road ahead of him.

[Jaxson]

One reason why the GOP has such a strong hold on Jacksonvlle (and the South) is because they have managed to nationalize the politics.

I agree with you!

Actually Brown would do better to move away from the Union shots, like he had last night with the IBEW. The south is not as unionized as the north. The growth of southern states at the expense of northern states shows, to me, that there are more small businesses started by people in the south, where labor laws are less rigid. The Blue Dog Democrats are PRO-Business, and they realize, even in the northern states that the southern states are kicking their butts for people and jobs, Texas has the strongest economy of any state in the union, and these dems realize that they better adapt and change, or they will continue to lose more people.

I do not think Brown can win, but it all depends on if the Dems come out to vote for their member. 8 years ago, they did not come out and vote for Glover, but we were riding an economic recovery in 2003. Now we are riding a democratic revolt. Maybe the Democrats can't catch a break, but the tape of economic recovery shows he has a rough road ahead of him.

You agree with me!  I will cherish this moment.  Gracias ; )

[Expree]

I attended only one of the debates when Hogan was present.  He looks like a mayor should look I suppose, having no obvious physical oddities.  Has a good smile.  Looks like a politician.  Has excellent name recognition….. Tax Collector for years….  Hogan Street….  Hogan’s heroes.  And apparently he is a Christian, attending the First Baptist Church, a condition which brings many votes from fellow church members no matter what.

Hogan didn’t say much during the debate I attended, and what he said was of only moderate significance… was void of penetrating observations or complex analysis of any question or subject.  He did not speak eloquently of anything.  I am inclined to think that there is little of profound thinking in his mind or, if there is, he simply is not able to express it.  In other words, perhaps existing within Mr. Hogan, is an ability to think profoundly, to manage complexities, and to solve difficult problems, but to this day, this ability is not apparent to me simply because he has been so reticent, and so absent in the debates. 

It amazes me… concerns me, when I realize how many votes he received.  Do the people who voted for Mr. Hogan know something I don’t?  Perhaps they see qualities I’ve missed, such as a reasonably high general intelligence, and an ability to focus on and analyze complex issues, and to argue same with reasonable eloquence.

I realize that Mr. Hogan may be a mental giant within, able to jump tall problems in a single bound.  He may actually surprise us with excellent qualities at being a mayor.   However, it’s a little scary for me when I think that we might vote in as mayor something similar to a Bush in the presidency.  Who knows…  he may surprise us all.  He may be a great mayor.   

What concerns me too, with both Brown and Hogan, is that they apparently are both involved in the Christian habits of praying and depending excessively upon faith, which is of course okay for the most part, especially in their private excursions into the spiritual world.  However, when the important problems of government are involved, I prefer individuals who pray and have faith less, and use more reason and critical thinking to the utmost degree to solve the problems.  We certainly do not need religion anywhere near our governmental efforts.  We need intelligent, objective individuals.

I would have been much more impressed with Mr. Brown if he had avoided the extreme expression of his religious attachments after seeing the voting results.  His debate performance was somewhat impressive, certainly much more so that Mr. Hogan’s.   
   

[hillary supporter]

Expree,
I would like to bring to your attention that while Hogan recieved the largest amount, it was a good deal less than all the other candidates combined. And on a very low voter turnout. Audrey Moran and Mr Mullaney were very competent candidates, appealing to progressive republicans (and democrats). The next two months will give you information on both the candidates.
As for Alvin Browns appearance last night after the results, Alvin Browns words were directed towards his faith more than his religious views. He had been all but written off this campaign and pointed his gratitude towards that faith (and his pastor who helped him pay his tuition for college). It is completely different to express gratitude vs Hogans comment towards "domestic terrorism" bombing abortion clinics ( awww it was a joke!)
To repeat myself, i believe these incidents will reveal themselves in the days to come!

[Garden guy]

Unless the democrats get out and vote big time...this man hogan guy will be our new mayor and a new era of someone at first baptist running our future and years more of the same bs...so it's time to get nasty...democrats play nice way to much and pansy out..i know there are smarter than i out there and unless they can get loud and get out the vote....democrats have no chance..here or nation wide...

[tufsu1]

Garden guy....perhaps now you understand why not voting by party was so important the other day....Moran was the only candidate that could have easily beat Hogan!

[buckethead]

Republicans want to eat the poor.

Everyone knows that.

[Garden guy]

Republicans want to eat the poor.

Everyone knows that.

I think they just think they deserve more than others...of everything

[buckethead]

Whether someone deserves something is a subjective moral judgment, as is whether the general citizenry should provide something to a specifically targeted group of people.

I understand that you believe it is either/or, R vs D, but it just isn't so.

People are people. All of us are capable of good and evil.

Voting is a different matter. Pragmatism will often afford something closer to what you hoped for than stubbornness will. Especially when you consider that "Most Republicans/teabaggers are racists" coupled with the "fact" that recently, most local elections are won by republicans.

You might consider getting one, more enlightened Republican rather than holding out for the Democrat who may have little effective differences to the Republican.

[Garden guy]

Whether someone deserves something is a subjective moral judgment, as is whether the general citizenry should provide something to a specifically targeted group of people.

I understand that you believe it is either/or, R vs D, but it just isn't so.

People are people. All of us are capable of good and evil.

Voting is a different matter. Pragmatism will often afford something closer to what you hoped for than stubbornness will. Especially when you consider that "Most Republicans/teabaggers are racists" coupled with the "fact" that recently, most local elections are won by republicans.

You might consider getting one, more enlightened Republican rather than holding out for the Democrat who may have little effective differences to the Republican.

I've never found a republiana i would vote for...most are'nt for all of us...they usually only support issues and ideasthat support their ideas and screw everyone else. Hence the deregulation of our banks during the bush admn. and the defunding by lowering taxes and now we heve broke cities and towns all over....most republicans that i've met think that our public society really should be...most don't support the idea of public schools or anything public...if that happened we'd all be living in a FBC world. and who want'sthat?

[buckethead]

The Banking Act of 1933 was a law that established the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) in the United States and introduced banking reforms, some of which were designed to control speculation.[1] It is most commonly known as the Glassâ€"Steagall Act, after its legislative sponsors, Carter Glass and Henry B. Steagall.

Some provisions of the Act, such as Regulation Q, which allowed the Federal Reserve to regulate interest rates in savings accounts, were repealed by the Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act of 1980. Provisions that prohibit a bank holding company from owning other financial companies were repealed on November 12, 1999, by the Grammâ€"Leachâ€"Bliley Act. [2][3]

The repeal of the Glassâ€"Steagall Act of 1933 effectively removed the separation that previously existed between Wall Street investment banks and depository banks. This repeal directly contributed to the severity of the Financial crisis of 2007â€"2010

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Act

You sure about that?

[futurejax]

Whether someone deserves something is a subjective moral judgment, as is whether the general citizenry should provide something to a specifically targeted group of people.

I understand that you believe it is either/or, R vs D, but it just isn't so.

People are people. All of us are capable of good and evil.

Voting is a different matter. Pragmatism will often afford something closer to what you hoped for than stubbornness will. Especially when you consider that "Most Republicans/teabaggers are racists" coupled with the "fact" that recently, most local elections are won by republicans.

You might consider getting one, more enlightened Republican rather than holding out for the Democrat who may have little effective differences to the Republican.

I've never found a republiana i would vote for...most are'nt for all of us...they usually only support issues and ideasthat support their ideas and screw everyone else. Hence the deregulation of our banks during the bush admn. and the defunding by lowering taxes and now we heve broke cities and towns all over....most republicans that i've met think that our public society really should be...most don't support the idea of public schools or anything public...if that happened we'd all be living in a FBC world. and who want'sthat?

Garden guy with all due respect you seem too often to have no idea what on earth you're talking about.  Your talking points seem to be taken straight from a 2008 DNC pamphlet.  Know during who's admin Glass-Steagall was overturned?  Know how many times Frank let the GSEs "roll the dice" and know which adminn  tried to impose tighter regs on Fan and Fred?  Know who's administration decried 'redlining' and ignited the first chapter of sub-primes?  Know which party banks the most from Goldman Sachs?  These are all rhetorical questions of course, because it seems obvious you do not.  But continue with your R vs. D, good-evil, black and white memes and paradigms.  Seems like the safest place for you.  Or...., get ready for it,  you could actually do some of your own research and investigating.  Just a though there.