Will MAYOR Mike Hogan ever debate anyone? The people can't be ignored.

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hillary supporter

Quote from: thelakelander on March 09, 2011, 01:55:22 PM
Quote from: hillary supporter on March 09, 2011, 01:07:48 PM
Quote from: urbaknight on March 08, 2011, 02:01:58 PM
I like what Alvin Brown said about getting an NBA team here in JAX. I've said for years that JAX would be the perfect city for a basketball team. Audry Moran didn't do as well as she did during the last debate. But, I'm still voting for her as of right now.
as Ive let some time pass, having an NBA franchise would be a really good thing for Jacksonville, from my vision of what i want to see of my city. The auditorium would make (badly needed) revenue for the city, although that could be negotiated, but we would get some jobs. And exposure on a worldwide level. That's a good idea from Alvin!


Except that the mayor has no control over this and it doesn't even address the economics of the NBA, Jacksonville's market size and the talk of contracting, not expanding.  This is an unrealistic expectation.
The Seattle franchise relocated to Oklahoma City. The economics of the NBA would, and are, addressed by the NBA itself. Jacksonville's market size would be important of course but the city is growing while other cities once larger than Jax are losing population.
If any of the owners were to consider moving their teams, it very realistic to consider Jacksonville a home.
Historically, it was considered an unrealistic expectation for Jax to get an NFL franchise. But so we did. And as much as one would gossip about the Jags leaving, Wayne Weaver continues to portray the solidity of the Jags in Jax.
If the mayor of Jax was to voice interest in an NBA franchise, I feel the expectation would be much more realistic.

tufsu1

We have little hoops history in this town....we have 2 college teams that get pathetic fan support...and we have an ABA team (like 60+ other cities) that barely drew 3,000 people per game...so here is a simple list of 5 cities that would likely be considered before Jax. for an NBA team

Las Vegas
Baltimore
Tampa
Seattle
San Diego

and assuming the New Orleans team continues struggling financailly and closes/moves, that city would also be on the list ahead of us.


thelakelander

Kansas City, Newark, St. Louis, Cincinnati, Austin, Columbus and Louisville are a few others.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Wacca Pilatka

Quote from: thelakelander on March 09, 2011, 04:07:58 PM
Kansas City, Newark, St. Louis, Cincinnati, Austin, Columbus and Louisville are a few others.

Don't forget Norfolk!  Doesn't Newark already have claim to the Nets?

I don't think it's realistic to say Jax can support a second pro franchise at this time, or that the arena meets modern NBA expectations for amenities or capacity (and it really wasn't designed to do so), but I don't think less of Mr. Brown for having proffered that vision. 
The tourist would realize at once that he had struck the Land of Flowers - the City Beautiful!

Henry J. Klutho

wsansewjs

The idea of bringing NBA to Jacksonville during its hardship and economic woes. I don't care if it helps the city one way or another, but we got to take care the ESSENTIAL needs of this city before we can do anything about luxury things like NBA, Aquarium, etc.

Alvin Brown mentioning of bring NBA to Jacksonville is an act of immaturity on his behalf. I don't want someone who have one or two immature personality traits to be running the city as the Mayor. Would you?

-Josh
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fieldafm

QuoteThe Seattle franchise relocated to Oklahoma City. The economics of the NBA would, and are, addressed by the NBA itself. Jacksonville's market size would be important of course but the city is growing while other cities once larger than Jax are losing population.
If any of the owners were to consider moving their teams, it very realistic to consider Jacksonville a home.
Historically, it was considered an unrealistic expectation for Jax to get an NFL franchise. But so we did. And as much as one would gossip about the Jags leaving, Wayne Weaver continues to portray the solidity of the Jags in Jax.
If the mayor of Jax was to voice interest in an NBA franchise, I feel the expectation would be much more realistic

Respectfully, nothing about the NBA in Jax is based on reality.

NBA in Jax is nothing more than a smoke screen to divert attention away from the real issues affecting our community.  On those issues, Mr Brown is not up to speed.

Audrey is the most dynamic leader in this race.  With her at the healm, our city will finally become The Bold New City of the South once again.  I have never been so sure of anything in my life, and my love for this city is higher than the BankofAmerica Tower and longer than the St Johns River.

hillary supporter

Quote from: tufsu1 on March 09, 2011, 03:59:11 PM
We have little hoops history in this town....we have 2 college teams that get pathetic fan support...and we have an ABA team (like 60+ other cities) that barely drew 3,000 people per game...so here is a simple list of 5 cities that would likely be considered before Jax. for an NBA team

Las Vegas
Baltimore
Tampa
Seattle
San Diego

and assuming the New Orleans team continues struggling financially and closes/moves, that city would also be on the list ahead of us.


I stand by my example of Oklahoma City getting a franchise. We are definitely in the league (no pun intended) of Oklahoma City. Seattle and San Diego have a hex of losing a franchise, probably because of not coming to terms with the owners of those franchises. All those cities listed above are contenders for an NBA franchise, just has St Louis and Tennessee were contenders for the NFL expansion in the 90s when Jacksonville acquired the Jags. The difference then was we prepared a plan the appealed to the owners so much that it chose Jacksonville. Most of Jax thought it was unrealistic to get an NFL franchise. Until it happened. Many of those same literally pray for the day that franchise leaves town.
QuoteThe idea of bringing NBA to Jacksonville during its hardship and economic woes. I don't care if it helps the city one way or another, but we got to take care the ESSENTIAL needs of this city before we can do anything about luxury things like NBA, Aquarium, etc.

Alvin Brown mentioning of bring NBA to Jacksonville is an act of immaturity on his behalf. I don't want someone who have one or two immature personality traits to be running the city as the Mayor. Would you?

-Josh[quote/]
Brown has always pointed to his experience in job growth has his approach to the major problem
facing Jacksonville today. While that same problem plagues all those above cities today, Jacksonville's problem is not on the level of many of those cities. These times, as dismal has you want to believe, should also be viewed as an opportunity to take a giant leap forward. Alvin Brown is the only candidate that sees this. All great cities share such history. Why not us?

As
Wacca Pilatka said, just his optimism alone is to be admired.
As to Alvin Browns immaturity, to me its a question of skepticism ("Why should we have an NBA team in Jacksonville?")    vs optimism ("Why not?")

thelakelander

Oklahoma City did not have any team before Seattle's owner relocated his team to that isolated market.  We happen to already have a major professional sports franchise and are within a short drive of four others, one of which happens to be two hours away.  These two issues are significant enough to discredit the Oklahoma City comparison.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

JeffreyS

Do we need to split the thread to a getting an NBA team topic that I won't need to check.
Lenny Smash

JeffreyS

Only if the Magic moved here would it be in the realm of possibility.
Lenny Smash