Jobs Created and Saved By Stimulus Cost At Minimum An Average of $228,055 Each

[Dog Walker]

Other than trying to manage the shitstorm (that could still potentially go south) left behind by the outright looting during the Bush Administration, what do you think Obama has done thats wrong for the economy?

He didn't get us out of Afghanistan and Iraq.  That would have helped a lot.

[Doctor_K]

So to break the last 30 years' worth of fiscal matters for the US down into over-simplified terms, would it be safe to posit the following?

Reagan started it

Bush 41 was practically irrelevant.  But probably made it worse a la Desert Storm

Clinton came close to fixing it

Bush 43 ruined it

Obama is doing more of the same

Can we at least agree on that?

Other than trying to manage the shitstorm (that could still potentially go south) left behind by the outright looting during the Bush Administration, what do you think Obama has done thats wrong for the economy?

My apologies - I was focusing more on the debt/deficit part of it, rather than the economy as a whole.

[Sigma]

You are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts.

[Clem1029]

*yawn* will someone do everyone a favor and wake us up when "Y'all spent so much that it's perfectly OK if we spend quadruple that in half the amount of time!" ceases to be considered a valid argument? Much obliged.

[JeffreyS]

I think we all agree we need to make cuts.  Some of us think the savings should come from cuts to the Mideast destroy, rebuild, kill brown people sacrifice our soldiers project. While some want to cut investing in America and Americans. Just different philosophies that's all.

[Clem1029]

I think we all agree we need to make cuts.  Some of us think the savings should come from cuts to the Mideast destroy, rebuild, kill brown people sacrifice our soldiers project. While some want to cut investing in America and Americans. Just different philosophies that's all.

Meh...the only problem with that theory is that there were two, full, unadulterated years to make that happen. Not only did it not happen, it wasn't even on the radar as as serious priority. Clearly, it's more a priority to have a useful cudgel than to actually, oh, act on principle.

[JeffreyS]

I think we all agree we need to make cuts.  Some of us think the savings should come from cuts to the Mideast destroy, rebuild, kill brown people sacrifice our soldiers project. While some want to cut investing in America and Americans. Just different philosophies that's all.

Meh...the only problem with that theory is that there were two, full, unadulterated years to make that happen. Not only did it not happen, it wasn't even on the radar as as serious priority. Clearly, it's more a priority to have a useful cudgel than to actually, oh, act on principle.

Not gonna totally disagree with you here.

[JeffreyS]

I think we all agree we need to make cuts.  Some of us think the savings should come from cuts to the Mideast destroy, rebuild, kill brown people sacrifice our soldiers project. While some want to cut investing in America and Americans. Just different philosophies that's all.

That and a little aggressive punitive damages for our criminals on wall street, a roll back of national highway expansions in favor of rail, and a responsible taxation policy.

Gonna totally agree with you here.

[Clem1029]

I think we all agree we need to make cuts.  Some of us think the savings should come from cuts to the Mideast destroy, rebuild, kill brown people sacrifice our soldiers project. While some want to cut investing in America and Americans. Just different philosophies that's all.

Meh...the only problem with that theory is that there were two, full, unadulterated years to make that happen. Not only did it not happen, it wasn't even on the radar as as serious priority. Clearly, it's more a priority to have a useful cudgel than to actually, oh, act on principle.

except for what actually happened, I guess:

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-announces-end-of-iraq-war-turns-it-into-speech-on-the-economy-2010-8

Obama Announces End Of Iraq War -- Turns It Into Speech On The Economy
Joe Weisenthal | Aug. 31, 2010, 9:30 PM

Wait...so let's see if I have this straight...

He gave a speech...about the "end" of the Iraq war....at some indefinite point in the future...completely ignoring Afghanistan...and said speech was given 1.5 years since he took office with a filibuster-proof majority in Congress...and shortly before a devastating mid-term defeat? Do I have that right?

I'm stunned.

Anyone have a real argument to make?

[Garden guy]

The leaders of our country really could care less about our survival. If so not one of the men on wall street would have a job. They'd have all been fired and replaced..the people who cause this mess are making millions and millions playing the guessing game of wether we are going to live or die..our jails would be filled to the brime with this ilk of a people that gamble our futures...we poor are tired of the abuse and i'm tire of so many just kissing thier ass because they have everyone afraid....corporate abuses and all of these hedge funds and that fund...when are we going to get pissed off and say we've had enough..instead all i hear on here and many other sites is...well...they deserve to do what they are doing...bull shit...they brought this country to its knees and should pay for it...but never will....gee...just like here in jacksonville.

[BridgeTroll]

Good morning GG... welcome to another day... in HELL... Bwahahahahaha