Who Loves JEA?

[tufsu1]

Food prices are volatile too, amd it costs money to reprint ads, so maybe restaurants should start billing like JEA?

except they don't have to hold public hearings and get approval from an oversight board to change their prices.

btw...all the taxes that get added to the mutility bill are no different than things like cell phone, hotel, and car rental bills.

[ChriswUfGator]

Food prices are volatile too, amd it costs money to reprint ads, so maybe restaurants should start billing like JEA?

except they don't have to hold public hearings and get approval from an oversight board to change their prices.

btw...all the taxes that get added to the mutility bill are no different than things like cell phone, hotel, and car rental bills.

They're entirely different.

Taxes on your cell phone bill don't just go straight back to your phone carrier's bottom line. JEA = COJ, and the "Franchise Fee" and "Public Service Tax" they add to our bills goes straight back to them. They aren't collecting that money to pay to the State, it just goes right back to them. If AT&T started adding random "taxes" to your bill and pocketing the money, like JEA/COJ does, they'd go to jail. So, tufsu, they are quite different things indeed.

But if you insist, please show me a phone company that adds taxes to their customers' bills and keeps the money.

[uptowngirl]

Food prices are volatile too, amd it costs money to reprint ads, so maybe restaurants should start billing like JEA?

except they don't have to hold public hearings and get approval from an oversight board to change their prices.

btw...all the taxes that get added to the mutility bill are no different than things like cell phone, hotel, and car rental bills.

LOL, so the CEO is a BS job at JEA- you just said it yourself !

[tufsu1]

Food prices are volatile too, amd it costs money to reprint ads, so maybe restaurants should start billing like JEA?

except they don't have to hold public hearings and get approval from an oversight board to change their prices.

btw...all the taxes that get added to the mutility bill are no different than things like cell phone, hotel, and car rental bills.

LOL, so the CEO is a BS job at JEA- you just said it yourself !

please explain

[uptowngirl]

"except they don't have to hold public hearings and get approval from an oversight board to change their prices."

The CEO cannot set his own prices all on his own, he can't just go build a new nuclear plant all on his own, ultimately any big decisions go to multiple parties for approval prior to being acted upon.

JEA=COJ you said it brother, who needs a CEO? It is a redundant, redundant position you just said so yourself. It is not like a private business where someone is making decisions about what to charge, how to pay for it, advertising the goods, etc etc.....

[BridgeTroll]

While it is clear to me and everyone else here that the CEO of JEA is stealing a large chunk of his unearned pay from the public... maybe we should get some salary figures of CEOs of similar operations just to put an exclamation point on it.

[uptowngirl]

Some get this, some don't. BTW how many jobs like this are out there? Is there a huge competitive market for this? I think not. CEO pay across the board is outrageous period. For utilities in general, and government owned utilities in particular it is a joke. There are no other options to consumers, so there is no justification in these salaries. Utilities executives pay out pace all other city and most state governmental positions. How can the CEO of JEA be making more important decisions than the governor of Florida? Would we get a more qualified leader of our state if we just paid more? Why is OK to support this position and not support higher pay for government workers making even more key decisions with much, much larger budgets and way more risk???

http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Florida_state_government_salary#

BTW- Governor's salary DECREASED in 2010. Not one position here makes over 200K a yr and the CEO of JEA has a more important role to play than the governor, attorney general, mayor???

undefensible. It is a government position-period.

[Dog Walker]

Take a look at the salaries and benefits of the top generals and admirals who literally make life & death decisions about their "employees" and look at their qualifications.  All of them have advanced degrees and many of them have Phd's and all have decades of increasingly important job experience.

Bet you that they don't make nearly as much as the JEA head does and don't have any better benefits.

[tufsu1]

Take a look at the salaries and benefits of the top generals and admirals who literally make life & death decisions about their "employees" and look at their qualifications.  All of them have advanced degrees and many of them have Phd's and all have decades of increasingly important job experience.

Bet you that they don't make nearly as much as the JEA head does and don't have any better benefits.

you might want to check what happens when they retire from the military and join the private sector

[uptowngirl]

Take a look at the salaries and benefits of the top generals and admirals who literally make life & death decisions about their "employees" and look at their qualifications.  All of them have advanced degrees and many of them have Phd's and all have decades of increasingly important job experience.

Bet you that they don't make nearly as much as the JEA head does and don't have any better benefits.

you might want to check what happens when they retire from the military and join the private sector

Which was the point, or did some miss it?

[Dog Walker]

A lot of them play a lot of golf.  Some of them, depending on their experience and education, go into teaching at universities and think tanks.  Some of them, depending on their experience and education, go onto Board of Directors or into the top ranks of business executives where the earn LOTS more than they ever did as Generals/Admirals for a few years before the retire again.

Some of them go into public service as volunteers as well, even after their second retirement. 

I had the honor (and fantastic learning experience) of serving with two retired generals and a retired admiral on the City of Treasure Island Planning Commission.  At the time I was by two or three decades the youngest person on the Board and was awed by the intelligence, perception and force of character of these balding, wrinkled old men.  Even in their Hawaiian shirts, Bermuda shorts showing knobby knees, the command presence was formidable.

It was deeply satisfying to watch hot-shot lawyers for developers wilt and panic under the authoritative questioning and deep knowledge of the regulations.  They could make you feel like a complete fool just by their tone of voice.

[ChriswUfGator]

Take a look at the salaries and benefits of the top generals and admirals who literally make life & death decisions about their "employees" and look at their qualifications.  All of them have advanced degrees and many of them have Phd's and all have decades of increasingly important job experience.

Bet you that they don't make nearly as much as the JEA head does and don't have any better benefits.

you might want to check what happens when they retire from the military and join the private sector

Unless they all go to work in the JEA call center I am not entirely sure what you're getting at...

[Dog Walker]

I think she is implying that they all jump into super high paid executive jobs in military contracting companies.

[uptowngirl]

TUFSU

[tufsu1]

I think she is implying that they all jump into super high paid executive jobs in military contracting companies.

that is exactly what I implied...and it certainly applies to some retired generals.

FYI...this is what happens when you choke government down to nothing....perfect example, FDOT....the agency is the same size it was in 1976, when Florida's population was less than half of what it is now.....the only way that worked is to have consulting firms do more of the work...is that really cheaper?