City Salaries - Who Makes the most

[Ralph W]

Just a follow up to the JEA hate thread.

http://www.news4jax.com/money/26733154/detail.html

Just look at who is the lead dog.

[cityimrov]

Just a follow up to the JEA hate thread.

http://www.news4jax.com/money/26733154/detail.html

Just look at who is the lead dog.

That's not a lot of money for a CEO position for a company the size of JEA.  

Then again this is Jacksonville and we pay our people less.  Actually, the salaries of most people in Jacksonville (both public and private) are low except for some people who work for international companies doing international stuff who just happens to be in Jacksonville for some reason.  

This article is depressing.  Especially for a city that once influenced the country

[uptowngirl]

But it is a publicly owned company, not a private company.

"94 of the JEAs 1,979 employees are paid six-figure salaries. While that seems high, it is comparable to the pay at other utilities in the state."

For a publicly owned company, that is complete BS. Comparable to what other cities? Tampa? Orlando? Miami? Now look at cost of living, and of course the fact that this is a publicly held company.

[cityimrov]

Now look at cost of living, and of course the fact that this is a publicly held company.

That's even more depressing.  Low paying jobs in a cheap city in a cheap state.  It's like the only thing we can afford here is cheap stuff.

[tufsu1]

But it is a publicly owned company, not a private company.

"94 of the JEAs 1,979 employees are paid six-figure salaries. While that seems high, it is comparable to the pay at other utilities in the state."

For a publicly owned company, that is complete BS. Comparable to what other cities? Tampa? Orlando? Miami? Now look at cost of living, and of course the fact that this is a publicly held company.

well many of the other utilities in Florida are also publicly owned (like orlando, lakeland, Gainesville, and Tallahassee)....also, Jax. cost of living is on par with Orlando and Miami

[ChriswUfGator]

But it is a publicly owned company, not a private company.

"94 of the JEAs 1,979 employees are paid six-figure salaries. While that seems high, it is comparable to the pay at other utilities in the state."

For a publicly owned company, that is complete BS. Comparable to what other cities? Tampa? Orlando? Miami? Now look at cost of living, and of course the fact that this is a publicly held company.

well many of the other utilities in Florida are also publicly owned (like orlando, lakeland, Gainesville, and Tallahassee)....also, Jax. cost of living is on par with Orlando and Miami

1: Are you saying that the other publicly owned utilities have a couple hundred people all making $100k-$200k a year?

2: Did you really just say Jacksonville's cost of living is the same as Miami?

(especially the secomd comment, I'll give you fair opportunity to retract it before I blow it up)

[uptowngirl]

LOL you beat me too it Chris.

JAX is a cheap city, because the avg pay scale in JAX is poor. when  the avg worker is making between 37-45 K a yr in Jax it is CRAZY that you have JEA workers getting paid so much. They should be working in the avg pay scale for the area, not getting paid what someone in Miami is!

[cityimrov]

LOL you beat me too it Chris.

JAX is a cheap city, because the avg pay scale in JAX is poor. when  the avg worker is making between 37-45 K a yr in Jax it is CRAZY that you have JEA workers getting paid so much. They should be working in the avg pay scale for the area, not getting paid what someone in Miami is!

The skills needed to run a a power company is way different then that needed to run a call center.  If you reduce the salary of every JEA employee to around 37K, I'm moving out of this city ASAP because I don't know who your going to hire at that salary.  

Though either way, it really doesn't matter.  It's hard to take people seriously on issues like since this is brought up so many times.  

If JEA was a private company and the CEO made $1.1 mil, nobody would be complaining about the CEO salary, right?  It's a private company!

[ChriswUfGator]

LOL you beat me too it Chris.

JAX is a cheap city, because the avg pay scale in JAX is poor. when  the avg worker is making between 37-45 K a yr in Jax it is CRAZY that you have JEA workers getting paid so much. They should be working in the avg pay scale for the area, not getting paid what someone in Miami is!

The skills needed to run a a power company is way different then that needed to run a call center.  If you reduce the salary of every JEA employee to around 37K, I'm moving out of this city ASAP because I don't know who your going to hire at that salary. 

Though either way, it really doesn't matter.  It's hard to take people seriously since issues like this is brought up so many times.  If JEA was a private company and the CEO made $1.1 mil, nobody would be complaining about the CEO salary, right? 

Useless comparison. JEA is not a private company.

[cityimrov]

LOL you beat me too it Chris.

JAX is a cheap city, because the avg pay scale in JAX is poor. when  the avg worker is making between 37-45 K a yr in Jax it is CRAZY that you have JEA workers getting paid so much. They should be working in the avg pay scale for the area, not getting paid what someone in Miami is!

The skills needed to run a a power company is way different then that needed to run a call center.  If you reduce the salary of every JEA employee to around 37K, I'm moving out of this city ASAP because I don't know who your going to hire at that salary. 

Though either way, it really doesn't matter.  It's hard to take people seriously since issues like this is brought up so many times.  If JEA was a private company and the CEO made $1.1 mil, nobody would be complaining about the CEO salary, right? 

Useless comparison. JEA is not a private company.

So, what salary should JEA CEO be paid?  An approximate number would be fine. 

[ChriswUfGator]

LOL you beat me too it Chris.

JAX is a cheap city, because the avg pay scale in JAX is poor. when  the avg worker is making between 37-45 K a yr in Jax it is CRAZY that you have JEA workers getting paid so much. They should be working in the avg pay scale for the area, not getting paid what someone in Miami is!

The skills needed to run a a power company is way different then that needed to run a call center.  If you reduce the salary of every JEA employee to around 37K, I'm moving out of this city ASAP because I don't know who your going to hire at that salary. 

Though either way, it really doesn't matter.  It's hard to take people seriously since issues like this is brought up so many times.  If JEA was a private company and the CEO made $1.1 mil, nobody would be complaining about the CEO salary, right? 

Useless comparison. JEA is not a private company.

So, what salary should JEA CEO be paid?  An approximate number would be fine. 

A salary commensurate with the other City department heads.

And I question why we have a couple hundred people working for this agency making 6-figures, and as many more within $10k or so of 6-figures. Seems kind of off the charts compared to the rest of the city government. The point being, they are running this like a private business, and it isn't one.

[cityimrov]

LOL you beat me too it Chris.

JAX is a cheap city, because the avg pay scale in JAX is poor. when  the avg worker is making between 37-45 K a yr in Jax it is CRAZY that you have JEA workers getting paid so much. They should be working in the avg pay scale for the area, not getting paid what someone in Miami is!

The skills needed to run a a power company is way different then that needed to run a call center.  If you reduce the salary of every JEA employee to around 37K, I'm moving out of this city ASAP because I don't know who your going to hire at that salary. 

Though either way, it really doesn't matter.  It's hard to take people seriously since issues like this is brought up so many times.  If JEA was a private company and the CEO made $1.1 mil, nobody would be complaining about the CEO salary, right? 

Useless comparison. JEA is not a private company.

So, what salary should JEA CEO be paid?  An approximate number would be fine. 

A salary commensurate with the other City department heads.

And I question why we have a couple hundred people working for this agency making 6-figures, and as many more within $10k or so of 6-figures. Seems kind of off the charts compared to the rest of the city government. The point being, they are running this like a private business, and it isn't one.

Can you give me a number?  It doesn't have to be exact like $195,000.22.  An approximate one will be fine. 

[tufsu1]

2: Did you really just say Jacksonville's cost of living is the same as Miami?

(especially the secomd comment, I'll give you fair opportunity to retract it before I blow it up)

oops...I meant to say Orlando and Tampa....was on my way out of the office for a meeting and rushed!

[uptowngirl]

he should make more than the freaking Mayor? Guess that explains the mayoral representation we have had too? Because like it or not this is a govt position, no matter what three letters you put in his title. Unlike private companies that have to compete for shares, this guy sits at his desk and can decide just about anything and we all gotta take it- period....doesn't seem like a risky position to me, so should not be the highest paid position in our local government.

Seems almost all of the mayoral candidates agree too :-)

[stjr]

JAX is a cheap city, because the avg pay scale in JAX is poor. when  the avg worker is making between 37-45 K a yr in Jax it is CRAZY that you have JEA workers getting paid so much. They should be working in the avg pay scale for the area, not getting paid what someone in Miami is!

A salary commensurate with the other City department heads.

And I question why we have a couple hundred people working for this agency making 6-figures, and as many more within $10k or so of 6-figures. Seems kind of off the charts compared to the rest of the city government. The point being, they are running this like a private business, and it isn't one.

JEA is a utility company.  Who owns it really doesn't matter.  It takes certain skills and experience to run a utility company of JEA's size and complexity.  To attract that qualified person, JEA must compete in the market appropriately.  The market is national, not local.  There is only one Jax based electric/water/sewer company like JEA so JEA isn't going to hire the person from the company down the street.

Thus, the salary of the head of JEA or any other position within an agency, city department, etc. must be appropriate to attract the right person to the specific job if we want that job well executed.  The market for any position reflects all employers, both public and private, competing for the needed talents.

Now, one can debate the quality of the performance of the person filling the job.  But, if there is a consensus by those doing the hiring that the employee is doing a good job, the salary will be what the market for that talent dictates.  If the consensus of the management is they are not doing the job, the pay needs to be reduced or the person relieved of the job.  But, none of this will effect the salary of a competent person.  An employer here may also be able to negotiate a lower than average market rate due to having a desirable location, no personal state income tax, etc. but that is merely a fine tuning adjustment working off of the national market rate.

What other people in Jax are paid doing one job has no real bearing on the pay for any other different job.  Each different position has a different market.  What parking lot attendants make has no direct correlation with what an electrical engineer makes.

Now if JEA is paying above the national market that is a different issue.  But, I don't' see that being the complaint being posted here.

As to other 6 figure jobs at JEA, one must again look at the specific job requirements.  Making a sweeping statement that those jobs are paid too much just because they are 6 figures makes no sense.  If they are electric grid or power plant engineers, etc. or do very dangerous jobs like work on high voltage lines in the middle of a storm, and that's what it takes in the market to fill those positions with competent people, then so be it.  If someone makes less, let them go back to college or trade school and become qualified to do those jobs.  The more that do so, the less those jobs will pay.  It's about supply and demand and that's what free enterprise is all about.