Congresswoman Giffords, Others Shot/Killed in Arizona

Started by stjr, January 08, 2011, 03:33:42 PM

NotNow

The shooter was mentally unbalanced.  It is improper to blame the left or the right political philosophies for his actions.  Violence should be condemned in ALL of our countries political discourse.  I am sure that we all agree on that point.  Let's leave this what it is, a mentally unbalanced individuals crazy actions.
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Shwaz

The article did not mention they were friends... Didnt mention the Tea Party either. Although I'm more inclined to believe someone that had physically met this individual in person. That's a fact.

Pompous starts with You...
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stjr

Wow, little girl was born on 9-11-01.  What irony in that.  Violence then and now.  How sad.

QuoteChristina Taylor Greene
The 9-year-old who was shot at the event and later died at a hospital went to the Giffords event with a neighbor because she had just been elected to the student council and was interested in government, her uncle told KTAR in Phoenix.

Born Sept. 11, 2001, according to NBC station KVOA, she attended Mesa Verde Elementary School.

Christina was also involved in ballet, baseball and her church.

She just received her first Holy Communion at St. Odelia’s Catholic Church on Tucson’s northwest wide, Catholic Diocese of Tucson officials said.

“‘Let the children come to me,’ Jesus said (Matthew 19:14). Christina is with Him,” Roman Catholic Diocese of Tucson Bishop Gerald F.Kicanas wrote in a prepared statement from Jordan, where he is attending a bishops’ meeting.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40983356/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
Hey!  Whatever happened to just plain ol' COMMON SENSE!!

Shwaz

To be honest I'm not sure what exactly the relationship between the classmate and the shooter was. I am sure nothing quoted above infers that he was tea party member sent on a mission from Palin to shoot a crowd of people this morning... Which is the claim that you're making.
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Shwaz

Because it's more of logical conclusion than tea party conspiracy that you're harping on. He was at least described as liberal by someone from his home town. That holds more water than a left wing elitist making wild accusations from3000 miles away.
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Shwaz

As fun as it sounds to graze over this post and insert quotes of your outlandish claims... Unfortunately I'm bored with the argument. If only your performance this evening was a good as your portrayal of Rocky Dennis. Give Rusty & Gar a big high 5 "shwaz called the student a 'friend'... He sure did Rock...and you showed him"
And though I long to embrace, I will not replace my priorities: humour, opinion, a sense of compassion, creativity and a distaste for fashion.

Shwaz

And though I long to embrace, I will not replace my priorities: humour, opinion, a sense of compassion, creativity and a distaste for fashion.

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: Shwaz on January 09, 2011, 02:10:44 AM
As fun as it sounds to graze over this post and insert quotes of your outlandish claims... Unfortunately I'm bored with the argument. If only your performance this evening was a good as your portrayal of Rocky Dennis. Give Rusty & Gar a big high 5 "shwaz called the student a 'friend'... He sure did Rock...and you showed him"

Funny how people always get "bored" or "tired of the debate" once they get busted for doing the very same thing they were stalwartly accusing someone else of. There must be a specific gene for this trait in human DNA.


Singejoufflue

It's unfortunate that this discussion turned political.  From all I have read this morning, he has been mentally unstable for many years, so much so he was suspended from Community College and not able to return without medical clearance, was not allowed to enter the Army and alienated his classmates.  That he wanted his currency backed by gold or was anti-abortion seems to be a red herring.

After sufficient concern to remove a student from school, what did his parents do to see that he had some treatment? 

Springfielder

If the target of this lunatic wasn't a political figure, then the conversation probably wouldn't have turned political. It certainly appears that the congresswoman was indeed, his target...and then some.

What gets me, are the comments as to how he's unstable...well, no kidding...would any sane/stable person go out and commit such a horrific act of killing and injuring innocent people? Saying this killer is unstable...well, hello!

I also find it eerie that the little girl killed, was born on 9/11/01....is it just me, or does anyone see how this screams out about how horrific hatred and the spewing of hatred leads to unjustified killing?


Singejoufflue

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That there happened to be a young girl killed who was born on September 11, 2001 is a mere coincidence.  To use it as an example of anything else is to be only inflammatory and salacious.  Her death would be no more or less tragic had she been born on September 10, 2001.

That the conversation went immediately into drivel about this or that party and planks, etc., is exactly what we don't need any longer.  "When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous," said the sheriff.

RiversideLoki

I think that this is worth everyone reading.

It's undeniable that this guy was insane. But if you actually read the text of his manifesto videos, it falls right in line with tea party ideology.

The problem is that there are elements of the right that have fanned the flames, enabling something like this to happen. When you call for violent uprising, you have to realize that there are elements of society that may take it to heart.

The good thing is, this completely ruins any chance of Sarah Palin running for president. The bad thing is that this completely ruins any chance of Sarah Palin running for president, which would make it an easy dem pick.
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Kiva

Quote from: RiversideLoki on January 09, 2011, 07:23:11 PM

The good thing is, this completely ruins any chance of Sarah Palin running for president. The bad thing is that this completely ruins any chance of Sarah Palin running for president, which would make it an easy dem pick.
It's interesting that Sarah Palin's website that had the map with Gabrielle Giffords as one of the targets first denied that the gun sights on the website were anything to do with guns, then (today) took down the map.

JMac

Your rush to blame the Tea Party and Sarah Palin for the behavior of this deranged individual is as pathetic as it is predictable.

JMac

Are you implying that I posted that because someone told me to?  If so, that makes you even more pathetic.