WSJournal Says "Start Stockpiling Food!" 700 Club Says "Ditch the Dollar Now!"

Started by stephendare, April 24, 2008, 10:48:57 PM

jaxhater

Steven,

I think all the "smart people" on here, want to suffer because they frecking deserve it.
Let them go down in flames, we can pick through their skulls one day for gold.
I'm voting for Mccain so "they" get an even better look at what Bush-Cheney wrought.
Please, if you hate Neo-con America, please vote for Mccain with me.
I would give anything for 8 more years of Bush-Cheney.
What monsters.
Can't wait for the investor driven water shortages.
That when it's going to get fun.
Nothing will be more important than what kind of firepower you have.
Screw rice, Rocket launchers have doubled in price the last two weeks, so you better get them while you can.
Grenades are way over-priced but a must have.
You should never fight a battle without those little bastards.

Doctor Z, Local coin dealers are the best place to buy P.M.s.
Though with each passing day it gets tougher to get silver.
It is rare to be able to get anymore than 100 oz's at a time.
Buy now till Sept, then wait till March to buy again.
Do not buy E.T.F.s.

Midway ®

Quote from: Charleston native on April 25, 2008, 07:25:50 PM
Quote from: Midway on April 25, 2008, 07:05:13 PM
Charleston Native doesn't like George Soros, which means Soros is wrong. After all what does he know, being the 80th richest person in the world and having made that money himself. I'm sure that Charleston native is much more astute an investor than Soros.

And we all look forward to you response just as soon as you finish cleaning out that kitty litter box.
I would look forward to you not responding in general...isn't there some hamburger grill you need to clean? Keep on trolling!

Riverside Gator groupie. Just reprint his posts. Maybe some of his intelligence will rub off on you.

You can go play house with him and his troll doll collection. maybe take some more photos.

RiversideGator

Quote from: Midway on April 25, 2008, 07:05:13 PM
Quote from: stephendare on April 25, 2008, 04:18:22 PM
Quote from: Charleston native on April 25, 2008, 04:15:05 PM
Hmmmm...Stephen, you do know that quoting George Soros tends to conjure serious credibility problems?  ;)

I'm strapped with work right now, but I'll respond to that article later.

on political philosophy or money manipulation?

Two very different levels of credibility i would assume.

Charleston Native doesn't like George Soros, which means Soros is wrong. After all what does he know, being the 80th richest person in the world and having made that money himself. I'm sure that Charleston native is much more astute an investor than Soros.

And we all look forward to you response just as soon as you finish cleaning out that kitty litter box.

Soros certainly has a knack for making money speculating on currency and enriching himself off the misery of smaller nations (what a compassionate liberal!), but that does not mean he is always correct.  In fact, he has forecast 10 of the last 1 economic downturns and 4 of the last 0 economic calamities.

RiversideGator

Quote from: Midway on April 26, 2008, 12:12:16 PM
Quote from: Charleston native on April 25, 2008, 07:25:50 PM
Quote from: Midway on April 25, 2008, 07:05:13 PM
Charleston Native doesn't like George Soros, which means Soros is wrong. After all what does he know, being the 80th richest person in the world and having made that money himself. I'm sure that Charleston native is much more astute an investor than Soros.

And we all look forward to you response just as soon as you finish cleaning out that kitty litter box.
I would look forward to you not responding in general...isn't there some hamburger grill you need to clean? Keep on trolling!

Riverside Gator groupie. Just reprint his posts. Maybe some of his intelligence will rub off on you.

You can go play house with him and his troll doll collection. maybe take some more photos.

Interesting ad hominem attack, midway.  This seems to be your forte.  This is why you have earned the troll moniker.   :)

Ocklawaha

Help!

Does ANYONE know where I can buy a 35 pound bag of Doritos or where they sell those 50 pound cases of Oreos? Survive Hell!

If some of y'all want to co-op, I used to frequent a still out on the Ortega River when I was a kid, I think with a few scrounged, donated or other construction articles, I could build us a regular Rebel Yell production facility... All in the name of survival of course!


Ocklawaha

Midway ®

River, you just wish that I were a troll, so that you could add me to your wonderful collection.

I noticed you don't have an avitar.

Here's my suggestion:




Midway ®

Quote from: RiversideGator on April 26, 2008, 02:51:24 PM
Quote from: Midway on April 25, 2008, 07:05:13 PM
Quote from: stephendare on April 25, 2008, 04:18:22 PM
Quote from: Charleston native on April 25, 2008, 04:15:05 PM
Hmmmm...Stephen, you do know that quoting George Soros tends to conjure serious credibility problems?  ;)

I'm strapped with work right now, but I'll respond to that article later.

on political philosophy or money manipulation?

Two very different levels of credibility i would assume.

Charleston Native doesn't like George Soros, which means Soros is wrong. After all what does he know, being the 80th richest person in the world and having made that money himself. I'm sure that Charleston native is much more astute an investor than Soros.

And we all look forward to you response just as soon as you finish cleaning out that kitty litter box.

Soros certainly has a knack for making money  (what a compassionate liberal!), but that does not mean he is always correct.  In fact, he has forecast 10 of the last 1 economic downturns and 4 of the last 0 economic calamities.

Last I checked he was 8 billion $ more correct than you. "speculating on currency and enriching himself off the misery of smaller nations" oh, who's the bleeding heart liberal now? Wahh Wahh Wahh he's enriching himself through speculation, oh mercy me!!! Are you wishing for a Socialist economic system where that activity is illegal?

Sorry, you can't have it both ways. Either you are for capitalism or against it. 

What a foolish post!  What a ridiculous statement!  Sure you hate him for his politics, but to lead people to infer that you are more astute than him in the realm of business is just plain asinine, and bespeaks your warped egotism and constant need for universal acclaim.


Midway ®

I really wonder how many people who post here have had a close family member explain to them in detail just exactly what the impact of the "great Depression" was on them and their family, rather than just reading about in in a textbook or on Wikipedia? How many people can actually put a human face on what it is really like, and can understand the full and real implications of such a financial disaster?

Midway ®

Riverside gator said:
QuoteInteresting ad hominem attack, midway. 

As Ye Sow, So Shall Ye Reap.

Midway ®

StephenDare said;
QuoteWe have had real trolls on here, and other boards, you should have been around for John Cocktosen and a few others.

John Cocktosen fit in perfectly at "the morgue" as it devolved into lunacy and obscurity.

That River would compare me with him by implication is as illogical a thought as any person is capable of producing.

He does not like my views? Thats too bad.
Don't like my techniques? Just following his example.
He can call me all the names he wants to. That's OK.
And remember that when he tosses one over the wall, he's likely to encounter incoming.
Logical, rational, provable facts.

Ocklawaha

#55

One of Dad's? In Maud, Oklahoma

Oh my God, Dad's school is still standing!

Well being the ancient one here I can relate. No I wasn't born then nor did I live through any part of the Great Depression, but 2 of my 3 older sisters, Mom and Dad sure did. Worse still, dad had worked in Oklahoma until 1927, by then the effects were already staggering in the oil patch and farm belt. Misfortune smiled on dad as he joined the Navy (at age 16!) before the entire country fell apart. By the time the military had lines knocking on their shrinking doors (remember the Treaty of Paris, we were disarming the world, already having fought the FINAL war {WW1}) so he had rank before the rush. Mom's father was a methodist circuit rider and the church, and his contracting business kept them well. The Navy sent dad to Great Lakes, Philadelphia, Maine, Seattle, San Francisco, and Long Beach. They were called "OKIES" (which became the universal term not unlike the "N" word, for the poor, homeless farmers, still used in California schools today to describe those "lower in station" such as a boy from Jacksonville, usually connected with "Stupid" etc...) and had it not been for ownership of a new auto and a military ID, many times they would have been placed in camps, compounds built to contain the "OKIES" on the west coast. The money became so valuable and rare that no one could afford a greenback. Wages were sliced, prices tumbled, banks folded and called in their loans, Mother Nature added as the top soil throughout the farm belt blew off in a drought, times were ugly. When my family finally took a vacation home to Southern Missouri, and while sleeping along a road in Oklahoma, woke to being surrounded by state troopers who mistook them for Bonnie and Clyde... (Okay, dad WAS a dead ringer for the bum but Mom? no way). My STRONG SUGGESTION to ANYONE who wants to really understand this at length or in depth, read the classic "THE GRAPES OF WRATH" by John Steinbeck.


Add in a natural disaster like "Here come Kansas' top soil... uh but this is Missouri


Family Photo? No, Dad had a slight moustache


BB 31 the Mighty old Utah, twin sister ship of the USS Florida


Utah today, the forgotten titan of Pearl

My folks survived it well, only to have dad's beloved USS UTAH restationed in Hawaii, On December 1, 1941 (or there about) he got his first leave after the move. He finally got a hop back to Long Beach. On Sunday December 7, they went to the beach only to see the shock wave roll across the crowd as the radios blasted out the horror of Pearl Harbor. The Utah and 56 of his best friends were gone, the ship is today an unknown memorial not unlike the popular Arizona... The only 2 ships still in place. He fought his way across the Pacific, became a big band performer, and later staged the first shows in occupied Japan.


"We will meet in the shrine at Yashakuni..." final words of Admiral Ito, IJN Yamato

When it all ended, after a stint in the Navy Department in Washington, he took the assignment as Navy Exchange Division Commander  in Jacksonville... TIME FOR THE BABY BOOM! and thus, sister Cheryl (of California) and little brother OCKLAWAHA. So call it Maryland born, Jacksonville raised and deep Oklahoma roots. YEAH, go ahead and call ME AN OKIE... Your DAMN STRAIGHT and I'll say it with PRIDE!

Ocklawaha


 

RiversideGator

Quote from: Midway on April 26, 2008, 05:52:45 PMLast I checked he was 8 billion $ more correct than you.

So, this means that he is 100% correct?  I didnt think you believed money conferred legitimacy on people.   ???

Quote"speculating on currency and enriching himself off the misery of smaller nations" oh, who's the bleeding heart liberal now? Wahh Wahh Wahh he's enriching himself through speculation, oh mercy me!!! Are you wishing for a Socialist economic system where that activity is illegal?

This is intelligent commentary.   ::)

BTW, I never said that what he does is illegal or even that it should be.  I simply am pointing out that many of his actions which have made him so much money differ from his stated beliefs.  Interesting study in hypocrisy.  Either way, he is an interesting character.

QuoteWhat a foolish post!  What a ridiculous statement!  Sure you hate him for his politics, but to lead people to infer that you are more astute than him in the realm of business is just plain asinine, and bespeaks your warped egotism and constant need for universal acclaim.

Perhaps I should cite some conservative billionaires who disagree with Soros to "prove" my point.

RiversideGator

Quote from: Midway on April 26, 2008, 10:48:26 PM
I really wonder how many people who post here have had a close family member explain to them in detail just exactly what the impact of the "great Depression" was on them and their family, rather than just reading about in in a textbook or on Wikipedia? How many people can actually put a human face on what it is really like, and can understand the full and real implications of such a financial disaster?

What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?  The point is not that things were bad back then and people today are unaware of this fact.  The point is we want to avoid having the government implementing the same boneheaded policies now that brought on the Great Depression then. 

jaxnative

QuoteThe point is we want to avoid having the government implementing the same boneheaded policies now that brought on the Great Depression then. 

...........and prolonged it by short-sighted, socialistic policies that only made matters worse.

Midway ®

It has nothing to do with the price of tea on china.

But it has everything to do with the price of bread in the USA.

I just happen to think that when a person has some firsthand knowledge of an occurrence such as the depression, (knowledge such as Ock enumerated above) it makes that person more introspective and adds dimension to their viewpoint. When all a person knows of these things is some disembodied lessons from a history textbook, the opinions tend to be dry and one dimensional and the proposed remedies also tend to discount the human factors.

And as for Soros, no it does not mean that he's 100% correct. It just means that he's $8 billion dollars more correct than you. He came here with less than you ever had. There was no reason that you could have not made $8 billion dollars also, doing just the same thing he did. nothing stopped you. As a matter of fact, you had more advantage than he did. So, in that respect, he bested you by a considerable distance, and made more correct choices than you in the arena of business, which must account for something.