What To Do With The Shipyards?

[Noone]

Ask the candidates. We will have new leadership in 3 months. There is a JCCI study underway called Recession, Recovery, and Beyond. Does anyone have any idea of what is being considered?

It will take legislation. It hasn't happened in Dist. 4 or Dist. 7. 

[fieldafm]

Beautiful morning along the riverwalk.  Shipyards property was open today because of the Gator Bowl the day before(property is used as parking for football games).  At the potential Bay Street Pier Park, there was a family taking advantage of the public access to the St Johns River and were playing fetch with their dogs on the Bay Street Pier Park site.

If opening up a simple fence results in a randomly organic use of the property, think of the kind of riverfront activation this pocket pier park could produce with proper planning and facilities?

[Noone]

Field, Nice pics. In two days  special committee meetings on 2010-856 that could potentially ban transient water related vendors throughout Duval county. If Downtown is exempt then the Waterways of our St. Johns River our American Heritage River needs to be exempt too.

Depending on who is elected in March. Bay St. Pier Park could happen immediately.

Whose going to make it happen? Because they are getting my vote.

[Noone]

In less than 4 hours a special meeting at city hall on a 1 mile ban of a transient vendor. Downtown is exempt. What is the boundry? I've tried to find out and have been unsuccessful. Is it 2003-627? Is it the Downtown Vision Boundry?

Regardless, Who will offer an amendment to exempt the Waterways of our St. Johns River our American Heritage River?

Be concerned.
Keep score.

[dougskiles]

Check out what Philadelphia is doing with an old pier very similar to what we have:

http://planphilly.com/race-street-pier-gets-slice-river-life

[Noone]

dougskiles, Great information. Just reinforces for the citizens of Florida why the Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier needs to be separate. If a mayoral or city council candidate doesn't support it I wouldn't vote for them.

The immediate creation of jobs on a generic level. It can happen.

Be concerned.
Keep score.

Our new slogan.

Lets get to Work- Just not in Jacksonville.

[Noone]

JCCI did a study called River Dance "Putting the River  in River City" At the same time there was another report that was done for Downtown Vision by Chan Krieger and Associates with the focus being on our Downtown and the River. Public Space was shown as a success in other communities.

Sept. 15 and 16 at the Prime Osborn Center will be the River Summit. There are speakers and topics. There will be discussion on a future river funding source for certain concerns. I think that we will see a  new tax and who will ultimately oversee its collection and implimentation. Will this be good or bad?

Ord.2010-604 is the legislation that paves the way for the city to regain control of the Shipyards/Landmar site. The OGC has said that the 680' Public Pier can be separate. For economic success I believe that the Pier should be separate and have its own zoning exceptions that will be outside of the JEDC oversite.

Remember that its just dumb luck that we are even getting this site back. Mayor Peyton is not interested in having the 680' Promised Pier separate. That is why the Pier should be an immediate focal point and a key city council and Mayoral campaign issue.

There does need to be more discussion on the 44 acres. But the Pier can happen now. If it doesn't then what a joke. 

The pier needs to be outside of the DIA control.

[Noone]

Today our Mayor is making Maritime history on the St. Johns River our American Heritage River. Our Mayor has not supported keeping and using the Promised 680'Bay St. Pier Park. Who ruuning for office will not allow this to immediately become SHIPYARDS III. The Public Trust Doctrine.

The state of Florida as well as the country is watching.
Restore the PUBLIC TRUST.
Be very concerned and keep score.

[Noone]

Field, Nice pics. In two days  special committee meetings on 2010-856 that could potentially ban transient water related vendors throughout Duval county. If Downtown is exempt then the Waterways of our St. Johns River our American Heritage River needs to be exempt too.

Depending on who is elected in March. Bay St. Pier Park could happen immediately.

Whose going to make it happen? Because they are getting my vote.

In 6 hours this community will be saying good bye to a Jacksonville icon. William Durden. I personally didn't know the man. But what little I have. It inspires me.

I did hear him speak when he did make an appearance during the recent Charter Revision Commission meetings that recently took place and one of the recommendations that came out of the meetings was the return of the Code of Ethics that was in our original Charter in 1968 and removed 4 years later in 1972.

Why am I putting this on this thread? I'm asking myself too. In my opinion the Public Trust in this community has been just totally destroyed. He was known as "The judge".

Shipyards I was a disaster. Shipyards II reduced the Public space from 16 acres to 8. Shipyards III total Govt. takeover of the Entertainment district.

Talk to anyone outside of Duval county and its as if there is a conspiracy to restrict the potential that could be an economic opportunity for everyone and not limitted for a select few.

For how little I know of this man. I want to say good bye and will think that in my heart this man would have welcomed everyone the opportunity to participate and try.

[Noone]

I'm voting for Hogan.

[thelakelander]

Noone, has Hogan promised to construct the pier? 

[Noone]

Noone, has Hogan promised to construct the pier? 

No. I didn't ask. But he did say that after March 22 we will paddle Hogans Creek.   

[JHAT76]

Noone, has Hogan promised to construct the pier? 

No. I didn't ask. But he did say that after March 22 we will paddle Hogans Creek.   

Of course if there is a Tea Party rally that day he will have to cancel just like with the debates.

[Charles Hunter]

Noone - so Hogan is going to canoe up Hogan's Creek with you - if he doesn't cancel.  With his strong anti-tax anti-spending campaign platform, I seriously doubt he will spend any money on a "Shipyards Park" or even the Pier.  He is the one candidate who has said selling parkland is "on the table" to raise money - and prime riverfront land like the Shipyards must be at the top of his list.  Please re-evaluate your choice for Mayor.  I have my own preference, but I think ANY of the other candidates would serve your interest in the Shipyards Pier and Park than Mr. Hogan.

ETA - I am afraid Mr. Hogan will leave you up a creek without a paddle, or a public pier.

[stjr]

My guess is that Hogan will sell off the Shipyards to one of the "good ol' boys" for a fire sale price and we taxpayers will be the losers.  Someone like his number one backer, Tony Sleiman, who already has manhandled the City negotiators and politicos over the Landing.  You don't get rich off of real estate making bad deals for yourself.  Yet, the City, time after time, gets taken to the cleaners.  Hogan appears to be too "nice" to stand up to people like this, especially when they help put him in office.  I am concerned he will be putty in the hands of his special interests backers.  Noone, if Hogan gets in, I give you odds that your pier will be in the domain of Sleiman.  Better add him to your kayak list.