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Hogan for Mayor?

Started by 02roadking, March 21, 2008, 10:57:05 AM

Jimmy

Someone should bring one along.  It's nice to open Folio and read a positive story...

Jimmy


stephenc

Is there a website that has some info on what Glorious Johnson has done while on the city council?


Jimmy

The Folio article gives some snippets.  And a search of Jacksonville.com over the past few years will reveal a lot of information.

What's funny is this: she is often snubbed and fails to get the credit she deserves.  For example, she's the lead person on the JALA foreclosure bill.  But another councilman gets the credit.  She doesn't mind -- all she wants is for the bills to make it through and the people to get the help.  All of this goes back to her struggle with the GOP leadership in 2003.  They'd all written checks to her Democratic opponent. 

She's one of only two councilmembers who voted against the recent tax hikes.  She's for historic preservation and reuse if you look at her stances on the Brewster Hospital and Firehouse No. 5.  I think her record is pretty interesting, but you do have to search for it at this point.

And I have no idea what driven1 is pushing.  That website has nothing to do with Councilwoman Johnson.  ;)

stephenc

Quote from: Driven1 on April 22, 2008, 04:17:34 PM
www.soglorious.com


I have to admit, that was pretty funny. At least it wasnt some porno site.

Quote from: Jimmy on April 22, 2008, 04:24:17 PM
The Folio article gives some snippets.  And a search of Jacksonville.com over the past few years will reveal a lot of information.

What's funny is this: she is often snubbed and fails to get the credit she deserves.  For example, she's the lead person on the JALA foreclosure bill.  But another councilman gets the credit.  She doesn't mind -- all she wants is for the bills to make it through and the people to get the help.  All of this goes back to her struggle with the GOP leadership in 2003.  They'd all written checks to her Democratic opponent. 

She's one of only two councilmembers who voted against the recent tax hikes.  She's for historic preservation and reuse if you look at her stances on the Brewster Hospital and Firehouse No. 5.  I think her record is pretty interesting, but you do have to search for it at this point.

And I have no idea what driven1 is pushing.  That website has nothing to do with Councilwoman Johnson.  ;)

Yeah, I found a few articles from the past. It's nice to see a politician who's top goal isn't trying to make a name for him or herself, but just wanting to see to society they are in grow, progress and become better as a whole.

RainorShine

Quote from: SLAPHAPPY on April 22, 2008, 03:19:34 PM

Looks like you picked the wrong day to quit smoking crack!!!

And I'm guess you are still going strong...guess that Grand Jury really got to ya.

Jimmy

Looked like a random crank to me.  But what do I know.

Jimmy


Charleston native

Quote from: Charleston native on April 18, 2008, 11:20:52 AM
I'm a bit confused on this issue. How can capping property taxes and instituting a sales tax hurt a consolidated city government? Capping property taxes will allow property owners to invest more in their property, and the sales tax will help draw in more revenue because as more investment occurs, more people will buy more things.
Ummm...can somebody answer my question, please?

Steve

Quote from: Charleston native on April 23, 2008, 04:49:08 PM
Quote from: Charleston native on April 18, 2008, 11:20:52 AM
I'm a bit confused on this issue. How can capping property taxes and instituting a sales tax hurt a consolidated city government? Capping property taxes will allow property owners to invest more in their property, and the sales tax will help draw in more revenue because as more investment occurs, more people will buy more things.
Ummm...can somebody answer my question, please?


Well, everything is good in doses.  For example, what if we capped property taxes to $500 per home.  It would be great for the individual, but who would pay the police.

One of the things that I don't understand is capping revenues without a plan to handle expenditures.  Shouldn't it be the other way around?

Charleston native

Steve, I would assume that if basic revenue is going to be capped, city leaders have to devise a better plan with the city's financial management, but we all know how well government in general does with that.  ::) However, instituting the sales tax should offset any losses from the cap. Again, it also depends on how the city manages that money. It can be either a good or bad idea, because it depends on the city's willingness to not take the revenue from the sales tax and use it for other frivolous projects.

Frugality is a rare trait exhibited by people in this country, Stephen, for certain. You and I would take whatever money we saved and use it to enhance our property, but many other people would indeed spend it on stuff. But that's what makes the sales tax such an effective tool...it takes the financial burden off of the property tax statement and acquires revenue in a less threatening venue: whatever people purchase.

Midway ®

Quote from: stephendare on April 23, 2008, 06:31:21 PM
Quote from: Charleston native on April 23, 2008, 04:49:08 PM
Quote from: Charleston native on April 18, 2008, 11:20:52 AM
I'm a bit confused on this issue. How can capping property taxes and instituting a sales tax hurt a consolidated city government? Capping property taxes will allow property owners to invest more in their property, and the sales tax will help draw in more revenue because as more investment occurs, more people will buy more things.
Ummm...can somebody answer my question, please?

Well I think its a great argument if it were based on actual behavior.

Normally whenever a homeowner is going to do property improvements, they take out a loan.  Only seriously frugal people like myself and the seriously anti debt wing of some fundamentalist churches do otherwise.

Personally I don't think there are enough numbers to claim that people pass on imaginary tax savings in to property improvements.

Second, if they are all being americans and spending on 'stuff' rather than their property, there isnt much of an argument that the improved properties will lead to investment which will lead to....

Your response is too reality based.

Could you please reconsider your answer based on political dogma instead?