Are we losing our rights in the name of safety?

Started by uptowngirl, November 13, 2010, 07:09:31 AM

JaxNative68

the majority of the people making and posting videos of their so called tsa experiences are just looking for their 15 minutes of fame and should be ignored.

granted, there may be several tsa employees overstepping their boundaries, but do you really think all tsa employees objectives are to see you naked, touch your body and try to humiliate you?  Also, I’m sorry but the body scans do not produce porn quality images of you standing there naked like everyone wants you to believe.  If you think you are being singled out to "be seen naked" or "groped", get over yourselves, must likely you’re not as physically appealing as you think you are.

Dog Walker

If you looked at some of the body scan images that were saved, leaked and then posted it would erase all doubt that we have a national obesity epidemic.  The images may be gross but they aren't pornographic (unless you have a really weird fetish!).
When all else fails hug the dog.

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: JaxNative68 on December 01, 2010, 05:19:10 PM
the majority of the people making and posting videos of their so called tsa experiences are just looking for their 15 minutes of fame and should be ignored.

granted, there may be several tsa employees overstepping their boundaries, but do you really think all tsa employees objectives are to see you naked, touch your body and try to humiliate you?  Also, I’m sorry but the body scans do not produce porn quality images of you standing there naked like everyone wants you to believe.  If you think you are being singled out to "be seen naked" or "groped", get over yourselves, must likely you’re not as physically appealing as you think you are.


Really?





If you don't consider that pornographic, you and I (and Webster's apparently) must have different definitions.

Did you even bother to look at the images being generated before going off with your little screed?


CS Foltz

I could be wrong, but from what I remember about the Fourth Amendment, where does the government get the right to do personnel searches of anyone? I don't care about what TSA has to say about much of anything......is the next step going to be government searches before entering a store to conduct business, or buy gas or enter an eatery? There has to be limits and TSA has no call to set them. If they do, then those should apply to all and not exempt a select few!

Ernest Street

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Quote from: Dog Walker on November 29, 2010, 10:05:49 PM
But, all in all; I really enjoyed the video of the young lady going through security in her speedos!

Wow!
DW..do you mean the fine looking late 30ish Brunette in the Black Bikini? she did that with class..walking in with a trench coat, taking it off and slinging it onto the conveyor belt. She then "Vogued" quite nicely I might add.

No Box Cutters here TSA..... ;D

simms3

If you consider that porn, then you have some fetish!  :D

Who is going to search leaked TSA scans when anyone can look at real porn for free?

And CS, there is language and interpretation with the 4th Amendment.  There are also exceptions, and international airports/ports/border entries are within the exceptions.  There does not need to be probable cause in these places.

I'm sure Chris can answer everything you want to know about the 4th Amendment :)
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ChriswUfGator

Quote from: simms3 on December 01, 2010, 09:15:32 PM
If you consider that porn, then you have some fetish!  :D

Who is going to search leaked TSA scans when anyone can look at real porn for free?

Hey the best site just closed down this year, I'll take what I can get! (jk)

And I didn't mean that I think the TSA is back there j/o'ing to the body scanner images or emailing them to their buddies, that was never the point, although if this goes on long enough you can bet that kind of shenanigans will eventually happen. My point was just that the things clearly do show everyone "full-Monty" and that seems rather invasive when the machines aren't really accomplishing anything that couldn't be accomplished with metal detectors or with the explosive detector puffer machines. It's an awfully long way to fall in terms of civil rights, for no real benefit.


Dog Walker

That's the one!  The little turn with her hands in the air was to show the TSA people that she wasn't concealing anything.

When all else fails hug the dog.

Coolyfett

Im in STX right now heading back to ATL, I was trying to bring some Rum as a carry on becausE I was told by a relative, bringing booz or tobacco was fine, While I picked up my boarding pass and headed to TSA, TSA, said because I was bring in RUM to the mainland I had to check in my bag! Doh!!!

Went back to the desk to check in my bag for 30 bux, because I had a certain Brand of RUM my fees were waived! My bag is now check in for free. THANKS TSA. I cant be mad at em.
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ChriswUfGator

Quote from: Coolyfett on December 07, 2010, 02:49:03 PM
Im in STX right now heading back to ATL, I was trying to bring some Rum as a carry on becausE I was told by a relative, bringing booz or tobacco was fine, While I picked up my boarding pass and headed to TSA, TSA, said because I was bring in RUM to the mainland I had to check in my bag! Doh!!!

Went back to the desk to check in my bag for 30 bux, because I had a certain Brand of RUM my fees were waived! My bag is now check in for free. THANKS TSA. I cant be mad at em.

You should thank your airline for waiving the fees, TSA had nothing to do with it.

If TSA won't let me on my flight so I'm walking back to my car and get run over by a bus and sue for a million dollars, should I split the money with them? I mean, come on, this is kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel for anything positive to say about them isn't it?


JaxNative68

Quote from: ChriswUfGator on December 01, 2010, 06:00:42 PM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on December 01, 2010, 05:19:10 PM
the majority of the people making and posting videos of their so called tsa experiences are just looking for their 15 minutes of fame and should be ignored.

granted, there may be several tsa employees overstepping their boundaries, but do you really think all tsa employees objectives are to see you naked, touch your body and try to humiliate you?  Also, I’m sorry but the body scans do not produce porn quality images of you standing there naked like everyone wants you to believe.  If you think you are being singled out to "be seen naked" or "groped", get over yourselves, must likely you’re not as physically appealing as you think you are.


Really?





If you don't consider that pornographic, you and I (and Webster's apparently) must have different definitions.

Did you even bother to look at the images being generated before going off with your little screed?

No I do not.  Stop worrying about your unit size, nobody at TSA cares!

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: JaxNative68 on December 07, 2010, 03:07:55 PM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on December 01, 2010, 06:00:42 PM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on December 01, 2010, 05:19:10 PM
the majority of the people making and posting videos of their so called tsa experiences are just looking for their 15 minutes of fame and should be ignored.

granted, there may be several tsa employees overstepping their boundaries, but do you really think all tsa employees objectives are to see you naked, touch your body and try to humiliate you?  Also, I’m sorry but the body scans do not produce porn quality images of you standing there naked like everyone wants you to believe.  If you think you are being singled out to "be seen naked" or "groped", get over yourselves, must likely you’re not as physically appealing as you think you are.


Really?





If you don't consider that pornographic, you and I (and Webster's apparently) must have different definitions.

Did you even bother to look at the images being generated before going off with your little screed?

No I do not.  Stop worrying about your unit size, nobody at TSA cares!

It doesn't matter whether you do, that's the point. The images speak for themselves.

I'm not worried about dick size, I'm worried about the 4th Amendment. Glad you have perspective.


JaxNative68

Why do think there are Amendments?  No documents drafted (no matter how good they sound at the time of conception) can stand the test of time and the ways the world changes.  Amendments are made to be ... amendended.  Where do you think they get their name?

I have plenty of perspective, but TSA body scans aren't at the top of my pecking order.  I was asked to walk through one earlier this year, and did so without argument.  I actually found it amusing, because the Sienfield airport wanding episode and Marc Marion "where is the room where you people are laughing at me" standup routine ran through my mind when I was standing inside the little glass cylinder with my hands over my head.

I would personally find the people stripping down and exposing themselves while trying to make a uneffective point more offensive when travelling with my very young children.

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: JaxNative68 on December 07, 2010, 03:57:12 PM
Why do think there are Amendments?  No documents drafted (no matter how good they sound at the time of conception) can stand the test of time and the ways the world changes.  Amendments are made to be ... amendended.  Where do you think they get their name?

I have plenty of perspective, but TSA body scans aren't at the top of my pecking order.  I was asked to walk through one earlier this year, and did so without argument.  I actually found it amusing, because the Sienfield airport wanding episode and Marc Marion "where is the room where you people are laughing at me" standup routine ran through my mind when I was standing inside the little glass cylinder with my hands over my head.

I would personally find the people stripping down and exposing themselves while trying to make a uneffective point more offensive when travelling with my very young children.

You evidently have very little understanding of the US Constitution. The first ten amendments are actually not 'amendments' as you're implying at all, rather, numbers 1-10 are the original Bill of Rights. And if the constitution were as flexible as you seem to believe, there wouldn't really be much point in having one, would there?

And my perspective comment was directed towards your turning a constitutional law issue into one about penis size, which isn't the point. Plenty of women object to the new screening machines as well.


JaxNative68

Actually the bill of rights wasn’t part of the original constitution but added roughly five years after the constitution was adopted.  My point being, no matter how iron clad the constitution seemed to be when drafted, there is always a need for amendments for prior unjust and for future world environment changes.  This was understood by the original drafters of the constitution, thus it has Article Five, describing how future amendments are to be ratified.  While you look up the constitution, try looking up the work sarcasm as well.

The protesting women just have issue with breast and vulva size :)  I added the smiley so it is understood that this sentence was added for humor.

Also I never stated the constitution as being "flexible".  If it were, there would be no need for amendments would there?