JSO Officers who Shot 2-year old Child, Resign

[Coolyfett]

Serve and Protect? Somehow I don't think so.................matter of judgement and bad on both of their parts!

Jacksonville is getting wild. These guys needed more training. Why send rookies to a situation like this. The mom has a case.

[Springfielder]

There's no doubt that the mom has a case. As for why rookies responded, they were doing their job. Again, you can have all the training humanly possible, but when it comes down to how one reacts, it's a pure guessing game. There's just no way to predict that, but the training is intended to help mentally and physically guide you.

Trust me, it's not just Jacksonville...

[Coolyfett]

If you do not know the sitrep you do not fire (esp in a public place) period. There is no excuse for this. The guy robbed a bank, he was not a mass murdered. Banks train employees that it is JUST money, give it and let it go. It is a sad world were money stolen from a bank is more important than the safety of the public, and excuses are made for firing 42 rounds into an occupied car. Bad decisions made by at least two of these officers, not evil men-but certainly not men I want patrolling my streets.

I think its me, but whats up with the JSO hate from the uptowners on this forum? What happened?? This cop defenitely had an issue or agenda. Is Ryan BlAck a white cop?? Maybe one thats sick & tired of black criminals? The robber took a shot from a shot gun and kept trying to get the car. Does his situation matter? The rookie black cop only fired six times right? In a way I dont blame the Ryan Black dude, but the mother may try to get some money for this. So what now? People rob when they NEED money. Whats the real cause of the issue? lack of employment? Lack of police training? Some of the self proclaimed Superheros can answer these for me

[ChriswUfGator]

If you do not know the sitrep you do not fire (esp in a public place) period. There is no excuse for this. The guy robbed a bank, he was not a mass murdered. Banks train employees that it is JUST money, give it and let it go. It is a sad world were money stolen from a bank is more important than the safety of the public, and excuses are made for firing 42 rounds into an occupied car. Bad decisions made by at least two of these officers, not evil men-but certainly not men I want patrolling my streets.

I think its me, but whats up with the JSO hate from the uptowners on this forum? What happened?? This cop defenitely had an issue or agenda. Is Ryan BlAck a white cop?? Maybe one thats sick & tired of black criminals? The robber took a shot from a shot gun and kept trying to get the car. Does his situation matter? The rookie black cop only fired six times right? In a way I dont blame the Ryan Black dude, but the mother may try to get some money for this. So what now? People rob when they NEED money. Whats the real cause of the issue? lack of employment? Lack of police training? Some of the self proclaimed Superheros can answer these for me

So if I don't think it's wonderful that JSO shot a 2 year old kid, that makes me a cop hater?

[Springfielder]

That's the kind of junk that comes from people responding to posts, of which they clearly didn't read. The thread isn't about uptowners, as the one poster calls those of us who have spoken up about the incident, it's about how police procedure was not really followed and/or bad judgment by a couple of officers involved, which resulted in the injury of innocent victims.

Being able to voice ones concern, and/or opposition to what appears to have been very poor judgment in the line of duty, does not make that person a cop hater...and that's a rather ignorant response to those of us who have voiced our concerns with the incident.

The mother of the child that was shot, most certainly has a very strong case against JSO, and will be awarded a financial settlement. The review board already came back with a negative response to 2 of the officers involved, and now they've resigned.

[NotNow]

If you do not know the sitrep you do not fire (esp in a public place) period. There is no excuse for this. The guy robbed a bank, he was not a mass murdered. Banks train employees that it is JUST money, give it and let it go. It is a sad world were money stolen from a bank is more important than the safety of the public, and excuses are made for firing 42 rounds into an occupied car. Bad decisions made by at least two of these officers, not evil men-but certainly not men I want patrolling my streets.

I think its me, but whats up with the JSO hate from the uptowners on this forum? What happened?? This cop defenitely had an issue or agenda. Is Ryan BlAck a white cop?? Maybe one thats sick & tired of black criminals? The robber took a shot from a shot gun and kept trying to get the car. Does his situation matter? The rookie black cop only fired six times right? In a way I dont blame the Ryan Black dude, but the mother may try to get some money for this. So what now? People rob when they NEED money. Whats the real cause of the issue? lack of employment? Lack of police training? Some of the self proclaimed Superheros can answer these for me

So if I don't think it's wonderful that JSO shot a 2 year old kid, that makes me a cop hater?

Well, you have actually posted that you do hate cops...

[ChriswUfGator]

If you do not know the sitrep you do not fire (esp in a public place) period. There is no excuse for this. The guy robbed a bank, he was not a mass murdered. Banks train employees that it is JUST money, give it and let it go. It is a sad world were money stolen from a bank is more important than the safety of the public, and excuses are made for firing 42 rounds into an occupied car. Bad decisions made by at least two of these officers, not evil men-but certainly not men I want patrolling my streets.

I think its me, but whats up with the JSO hate from the uptowners on this forum? What happened?? This cop defenitely had an issue or agenda. Is Ryan BlAck a white cop?? Maybe one thats sick & tired of black criminals? The robber took a shot from a shot gun and kept trying to get the car. Does his situation matter? The rookie black cop only fired six times right? In a way I dont blame the Ryan Black dude, but the mother may try to get some money for this. So what now? People rob when they NEED money. Whats the real cause of the issue? lack of employment? Lack of police training? Some of the self proclaimed Superheros can answer these for me

So if I don't think it's wonderful that JSO shot a 2 year old kid, that makes me a cop hater?

Well, you have actually posted that you do hate cops...

I would love to see you quote where I have ever said I hate police officers. Please find that for me.

Is this a new tactic, just making things up randomly when you don't otherwise have a point?

[NotNow]

Why, you posted that in the Battles thread.   You later removed it, but I remember.  Your feelings towards law enforcement are quite clear in most of your posts here. 

Remember, the truth ALWAYS comes out.

[uptowngirl]

I certainly do not hate cops, it is a job I know very well I could not, nor would want to do. It takes a certain kind of person to do this job and I it is my opinion some of these officers do not have what it takes. Cars driving by on Baymeadows were hit? I may be crazy but I think officers are to protect law abiding citizens not have shoot outs with bank robbers hitting innocent bystanders (and/or their property in the process. It is clear at least two of these police officers did exactly as trained, and even gave a direct order of the same which was ignored.

[ChriswUfGator]

Remember, the truth ALWAYS comes out.

I've found nearly universally that statements like that usually come from the ones with something to hide.

And again, I never said "I hate cops." You quite literally just made that up. Which is hardly anything new with you.

[ChriswUfGator]

If anyone cares, this was my actual comment from the Kiko Battles thread on LEO's;

Well, believe it or not, sometimes I agree with the cops, and other times I think they're out of line.

That NotNow can somehow turn that statement into "I hate cops" should clearly indicate his total lack of credibility.

[NotNow]

No, you said "I hate cops".  You know it, I know it.  And your credibility and mine does not rest on what we think or say.  We have a history that most here have seen.  I'll stand by what I have said, all you have to do is stand by what you have said.

[ChriswUfGator]

No, you said "I hate cops".  You know it, I know it.  And your credibility and mine does not rest on what we think or say.  We have a history that most here have seen.  I'll stand by what I have said, all you have to do is stand by what you have said.

I never said that. You are misstating the truth, and I already quoted what I actually wrote for you  in this thread. You'll note none of my posts have any edit stamps in the Battles thread. Again, this is all hardly shocking behavior from you. Certainly not the first time either.

And my credibility vs. yours speaks for itself. I may not have the most popular opinions on any given subject, but I take pride in ensuring that they are generally well reasoned, and I always stand by my words. Far more than can ever be said for you. I have yet to see you be correct or well reasoned on any given topic in all the years you've been cooking up steaming piles of horse manure on this site.

[ChriswUfGator]

Chris, it is possible that Notnow is simply mistaken, and it does break our rules to call anyone a 'liar' on these forums.  Please edit your post accordingly.

NotNow should play lotto more often, if he is able to so often be so conveniently mistaken and always in his favor.

That said I apologize for the TOS violation and edited my post.

[NotNow]

Well, I was going to edit my post as well to eliminate the "liar" stuff, but mine was just deleted....hmm.