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Hogan for Mayor?

Started by 02roadking, March 21, 2008, 10:57:05 AM

02roadking

While the article is more about property tax vs sales tax, seems that Mr. Hogan wants to be the next Mayor.
I had not heard that for sure. I must have missed the memo....
From   http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/index.php

Hogan stands behind revenue cap bill

03/21/2008
by Mike Sharkey
Staff Writer

Mike Hogan was not concerned Thursday about his 2011 bid for mayor and he wasn’t intimidated by a table full of some of Jacksonville’s most influential civic and private leaders that comprise the chairs of the various Jacksonville Journey committees.

The current Tax Collector talked for nearly 20 minutes about his proposal to limit growth by capping property taxes and implementing a sales tax to make up for the lost revenue. Then the grilling began. For over an hour, each committee chair in attendance questioned the logic behind the bill and wondered why Hogan didn’t back an amendment that would allow an exemption for Jacksonville because of its consolidated government.

After the meeting and after the handshakes, Hogan admitted he pondered turning down the invitation to speak. Hogan also said nothing he heard from anyone â€" a group that included former Mayor Ed Austin, former Sheriff Nat Glover, former State Sen Betty Holzendorf, former local Republican Party Chair Mike Hightower and several others â€" will convince him to change his mind.

“I originally told them I would not come,” said Hogan, who is pushing the bill through a statewide tax commission, of which he’s the only representative from Northeast Florida. “I told them if they were going to try to change my opinion about introducing the bill, and bring me here only to spank me, there was no need for me to come. They told me to be parochial. I am not going to do that to the taxpayers of the state.”

Hogan, who admits he intends to run for mayor in 2011, said he’s heard the proposed bill may or may not affect his candidacy.

“Some have called me intimating that it is a bad decision if I am serious about running. Some have called me the other way,” said Hogan. “If they know me, they know it doesn’t matter. I’m going to vote my conviction.”

According to Hogan, the genesis of the bill is to help the entire state by limiting growth. His bill is based on the Taxpayers Bill of Rights (TBOR), which has been adopted in Colorado. That legislation limits the growth of government through a relatively simple formula: the Consumer Price Index plus the growth rate.

“Government revenue plus spending can’t grow faster than that,” said Hogan, adding exceptions can be made with a two-thirds vote of local elected bodies.

Hogan’s bill deviates some from TBOR by including a 1 percent “fudge factor.” However, the premise is still the same.

“The goal is to tether the growth of government to the ability of the taxpayers to pay for it,” he said. “We call it the Taxpayer Protection Act.”

Hogan’s commission consists of 25 members from across the state. In order to get the bill to first the House of Representatives, then the State Senate, it must get the required minimum 17 votes from his taxing commission.

“I think I have more than that,” he said.

Hogan contends there’s more than enough wiggle room for growth regardless whether a cap exists or not.

“Our (Florida’s) best years were in 2005 and 2006 and didn’t tickle it (the growth cap). It’s too generous,” he said.

Hogan’s detractors are local, most of whom contend Jacksonville’s consolidated form of government has created a system that self-governs better than anywhere else in the state. Thursday, Hogan was repeatedly asked to exempt Jacksonville from his legislation.

Former Jacksonville Jaguar Tony Boselli suggested the bill was another method for Tallahassee to slowly erode the control local governments have and suggested private/public partnerships would be more beneficial than a bill that caps property taxes and adds a sales tax.

“That’s an age-old fight,” said Hogan, who has served on City Council and the State Legislature.

“To raise the sales tax will put a much greater burden on business owners,” said Boselli.

Hogan says the difference between what will be saved on property taxes and the potential sales tax is huge.

“I’d have to spend a whole lot on taxable items to spend as much as I’d save on property taxes,” he said.

Glover said Jacksonville being the “murder capital of the state” is reason enough to leave property taxes alone. He called that distinction “a big stick you can use. It’s almost criminal if you don’t.”

Linda Lanier, executive director of the Jacksonville Children’s Commission, implored Hogan to look into exempting her organization. Because the JCC is a dependent service that relies on funding from the City, Lanier hopes it can be considered a “special district” â€" something that would make it exempt from the legislation. According to Lanier, from birth to age 18 children only spend 10 percent of their time in school. The Children’s Commission, she says, provides valuable programs that take up a good portion of the other 90 percent. Hogan assured Lanier he would look into who is exempt and who isn’t.

Springfield since 1998

Driven1

We have learned via the lies of Peyton (yes, he lied) - but I proceed with caution here to say that I can't think of a better man right now for the position of Mayor than Hogan.  We'll have to continue watching him, but forget the policy (I like it - he is right - too much DOCUMENTED waste - who knows what is not yet found out) ... yeah, forget the policy - i love the fact that he stands up to the duval republican machine and says f you basically.  If he remains true to his word and takes smart stances like this, he doesn't need them to get elected.

Driven1

btw...Hogan was profiled briefly about a year ago on this site in the Beware the 26 article...

"Mike Hogan - Hogan is currently the elected Tax Collector of Duval County.  After Mike Weinstein's announcement of his intentions to run for State Representative, it is thought in many circles that Hogan has the inside track to win the office of mayor in 2011.  Hogan is a conservative Republican who served one term on the City Council.  Little else is known about Hogan at this time, so it remains to be seen whether he will HELP or HURT Jacksonville. "

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/view/385/121/

Charleston native

I'm a bit confused on this issue. How can capping property taxes and instituting a sales tax hurt a consolidated city government? Capping property taxes will allow property owners to invest more in their property, and the sales tax will help draw in more revenue because as more investment occurs, more people will buy more things.

Driven1

Quote from: stephendare on March 22, 2008, 06:23:49 PM
Mike was a decent guy when he was on  council.

oh wow!  you were around and were involved in the local politics scene then as well?  how long ago was that?  what kind of a guy was he - i mean, what do you mean as "decent"?

Beloki



Charles Hunter

If the Hogan Revenue Caps are implemented, how do you expect to fund all of the things this site has been (rightly so) promoting: commuter rail, lighting up downtown, maintaining the parks better, a streetcar system, better policing - especially of downtown, and so on?  All of these things cost money. 

Driven1

Quote from: Charles Hunter on April 18, 2008, 11:19:11 PM
If the Hogan Revenue Caps are implemented, how do you expect to fund all of the things this site has been (rightly so) promoting: commuter rail, lighting up downtown, maintaining the parks better, a streetcar system, better policing - especially of downtown, and so on?  All of these things cost money. 

Charles, I think I know that you are not a solid 100% believer that your tax dollars are not currently being wasted, right?  I would guess to the tune of 10% waste.  That would be a nice start.  Btw, don't worry about the "tax me please" crowd...Littlepage will have them falling in line come mayor-pickin' time.  It IS funny how so many of those that pay so little in taxes love to see the few of those who pay so much - pay more.

Jimmy

Quote from: stephendare on April 18, 2008, 11:25:34 PM
If you are asking me, Charles, Mike Hogan would NOT be my choice for mayor, ive already promised my heart to someone else.

Who else has made public that they're running to the degree Mike Hogan has?  Stephen, who in the race has your heart?  I feel like I've been asleep at the switch.  What's new in this race?

Jimmy

Well, yeah, I know.  But who has your heart?  You said it wasn't Mike Hogan.

RainorShine

To whom could SD have promised his heart?  Hmmmm....

There's a former City Council member that he was quite close to that I have heard still harbors a phantasma of herself as Mayor? 

She's made some rather curious moves lately...  This individual founded a "Consulting" firm with Shirley Dasher, but the company's latest corporate filings seem to indicate that she's no longer an officer of the company.  (Of course, the company--quite curiously--doesn't list a President:  http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/38100010.pdf)

One has to wonder if she's in...  Of course, I'm not even sure they are still close...

stephenc

Does anyone have a list of the people who have announced there canidacy?

Lunican

Has anyone announced their candidacy? If so, they didn't announce it very loudly.

billbo

Quote from: stephendare on April 20, 2008, 03:12:14 PM
no one has.

But there are tons of people with intentions.

An open invitation to all people on this site:  Notwithstanding who will actually run for mayor, what platforms are you most interested in for the mayor of Jacksonville.  Obviously there are plenty of options: Crime/murder rate, The St. John's River, downtown development, etc.  What is most important to the readers here and how can any of us be sure whomever claims these platforms isn't just puffing?