Long Day's Journey Into Plight: Stephen Dare Goes JTA

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Long Day's Journey Into Plight:  Stephen Dare Goes JTA



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Stephen Dare decided to give up car travel and get around depending wholly on the mass transit options provided by the Jacksonville Transportation Authority.

The result was often a hilarious and ultimately grisly tale and the highlights are compiled here:

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http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2009-jul-long-days-journey-into-plight-stephen-dare-goes-jta-

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The gregarious but adverse adventures of Stephendare goes JTA!

[riverside_mail]

Ok Stephen, the above picture is from Disney, but where exactly?

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Ok, seems like things are getting better.  Far from perfect, but better.  5 days in 25 to go....

[ChriswUfGator]

Ok, seems like things are getting better.  Far from perfect, but better.  5 days in 25 to go....

Uh huh. Yeah 2009 was so long ago...

Are you on the JTA payroll?

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Ok, seems like things are getting better.  Far from perfect, but better.  5 days in 25 to go....

Uh huh. Yeah 2009 was so long ago...

Are you on the JTA payroll?

I searched for the article on your advice - I told you, I do my homework.  My advice is you do the same.  That's what makes this site different than most, people with real opinions that appear to be based on experience and education.  Just being on the bandwagon of "JTA sucks" may give you a slanted opinion, but it's not based on any fact.

No, JTA hits me up for about 12 hours and 40 bucks a month.

[ChriswUfGator]

Ok, seems like things are getting better.  Far from perfect, but better.  5 days in 25 to go....

Uh huh. Yeah 2009 was so long ago...

Are you on the JTA payroll?

I searched for the article on your advice - I told you, I do my homework.  My advice is you do the same.  That's what makes this site different than most, people with real opinions that appear to be based on experience and education.  Just being on the bandwagon of "JTA sucks" may give you a slanted opinion, but it's not based on any fact.

No, JTA hits me up for about 12 hours and 40 bucks a month.

You didn't have to look too hard, since Stephen had already bumped it to the top of the transportation forum earlier when he saw my comments. I'm not sure taking the 2 seconds to click a link for an article that someone else already researched, wrote, and then bumped for you qualifies as "homework" and much less would it somehow bestow on you the authority to lecture others on their lack of "homework." I was the one who originally told you about this thread, and now you're lecturing me on doing my homework?

And I'm not on any bandwagon. I simply state the facts as I see them. If you disagree, then fine, that's your right. No need to be disingenuous by acting like clicking a thread someone else bumped for you is akin to writing a doctoral thesis.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Whatever, guy.

I read the first article after doing an MJ search and made a comment, bringing it to the front - before any of the others posted - then the rest started popping up.  Chicken & Egg, maybe he posted the others while I was reading the first, I don't care. 

You're not stating facts as you see them but only regurgitating others' opinions.

[ChriswUfGator]

Whatever, guy.

I read the first article after doing an MJ search and made a comment, bringing it to the front - before any of the others posted - then the rest started popping up.  Chicken & Egg, maybe he posted the others while I was reading the first, I don't care. 

You're not stating facts as you see them but only regurgitating others' opinions.

Evidently you have some mis-guided impression of how forums work.

This is the truly wonderful thing about everything being here in black & white. It eliminates that nasty little problem with people lying about what they said in order to avoid appearing wrong. So with that understanding, here is Stephen's bump of this thread following my earlier comments, note the time at 11:04 yesterday;

The gregarious but adverse adventures of Stephendare goes JTA!

And here is your comment when reading the thread 10 or 15 minutes later, after Stephen had already bumped it for you following my comments. As before, please note the time stamp;

Ok, seems like things are getting better.  Far from perfect, but better.  5 days in 25 to go....

So again, your "homework" consisted of nothing more than reading an article that I originally suggested to you, and that someone else researched, wrote, and bumped for you. So you may want to rethink your lectures on telling people to do their homework" when the reality is that we already did do YOUR homework for you.

And regarding JTA, I'm happy your bus service works out for you. For most people, it doesn't work as well as it allegedly does for you. You should respect others' rights to form their own opinion. Not everyone who disagrees with you is automatically bad, wrong, or misinformed.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

From the article that I read FIRST:

True to form, I read the article and was mildly amused.  Very visual and entertaining.  What has become of the series, though?  One bus trip to the extents of the system and you gave up?

Then the others popped up on the board:

[quote author
=stephendare link=topic=2629.msg28363#msg28363 date=1214848542]
Its weird posting my own name in the third person.

Starting tomorrow, (actually I got started Thursday last week) I will be going 30 days without a car, relying totally on JTA transit in order to move around the city.  I will also be exploring the routes and seeing where they go and what they do.

Already the start has been rocky, and its clear that no one has ever had a discussion with many of the busdrivers as to what constitutes a customer friendly approach.

Anyways, get ready for a month of reports, whining, bitching complaining and insight on how to get around JTA.

First.   Must make sense of this cobweb of wildly named bus routes.

They have an almost 0 correlation to any part of town that they go through.

Will begin with explanation tomorrow.

and:

30 Days of Plight. Stephen Dare goes JTA every day. « 1 2 ... 13 14 »  stephendare  208  11019   Yesterday at 11:09:19 AM
by stephendare  (no additional posts)

and finally:

Long Day's Journey Into Plight. Stephen Dare Wrassles the Transit System. « 1 2 ... 5 6 »  stephendare  80  6604   Yesterday at 11:11:53 AM
by stephendare 

Yes he reposted, but not until after the comment that I made on his article from 07/16/09, which incidentally, brought it to the top of the front page and probably brought back a few unpleasant memories. 

Stephen, do you eat venison?

Once again, guy, check ALL of the facts before you lecture someone.  And yes I did read the article based on your suggestion.  And the only reason I've carried it out this far is I know when I'm stating a fact and when I'm submitting and opinion.  I guess that line gets a little blurry after going through law school 

[Doctor_K]

Ok so hopefully here's a valid question, to move us away from the above nonsense...

The last time Stephen tried this was well over a year ago.  

I think I read in another thread (can't remember which, off-hand.  The double "Stephendare goes JTA" threads are throwing me off) that since JTA realigned the bus routes, Stephen was thinking about taking another stab at it?

What's the word, Stephendare?  Are we in for a 2010 rendition of 30 Days of Plight?  Or is that not in the cards?

[ChriswUfGator]

From the article that I read FIRST:

True to form, I read the article and was mildly amused.  Very visual and entertaining.  What has become of the series, though?  One bus trip to the extents of the system and you gave up?

Then the others popped up on the board:

[quote author
=stephendare link=topic=2629.msg28363#msg28363 date=1214848542]
Its weird posting my own name in the third person.

Starting tomorrow, (actually I got started Thursday last week) I will be going 30 days without a car, relying totally on JTA transit in order to move around the city.  I will also be exploring the routes and seeing where they go and what they do.

Already the start has been rocky, and its clear that no one has ever had a discussion with many of the busdrivers as to what constitutes a customer friendly approach.

Anyways, get ready for a month of reports, whining, bitching complaining and insight on how to get around JTA.

First.   Must make sense of this cobweb of wildly named bus routes.

They have an almost 0 correlation to any part of town that they go through.

Will begin with explanation tomorrow.

and:

30 Days of Plight. Stephen Dare goes JTA every day. « 1 2 ... 13 14 »  stephendare  208  11019   Yesterday at 11:09:19 AM
by stephendare  (no additional posts)

and finally:

Long Day's Journey Into Plight. Stephen Dare Wrassles the Transit System. « 1 2 ... 5 6 »  stephendare  80  6604   Yesterday at 11:11:53 AM
by stephendare  

Yes he reposted, but not until after the comment that I made on his article from 07/16/09, which incidentally, brought it to the top of the front page and probably brought back a few unpleasant memories.  

Stephen, do you eat venison?

Once again, guy, check ALL of the facts before you lecture someone.  And yes I did read the article based on your suggestion.  And the only reason I've carried it out this far is I know when I'm stating a fact and when I'm submitting and opinion.  I guess that line gets a little blurry after going through law school  

Seriously?

Ok, then, simple question. Did you, or did you not, only read these articles after I mentioned them?

And before you continue with your "truth-challenged" argument, here is my original post. Note the time-stamp;

She reads the forum the same as you or I, so I'm sure she'll see this thread eventually. I'm not normally in the business of planning out ideal bus routes for people and then getting back to anyone about it. That's not really my profession. If you question most peoples' experience with the bus, read Stephen's article about taking 10 hours to go to the equestrian center, or check out any of the comments in other threads on this topic. It is what it is.

You clearly only read this stuff a half-hour later, because I told you about it.

You seriously make no sense. I was originally who told you to read these articles and JTA reviews, which you weren't aware of, and then after you read them you start lobbing them back at me and telling me to do my homework, based on something you didn't even know existed until I told you about it.

Seriously, give it a rest. People aren't dumb, they can read time stamps. As I said before, allow people the right to form their own opinion. People aren't automatically bad, wrong, or misinformed because they disagree with you. And in this case, you weren't even aware of the history on the issue until I told you about it.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Doc K, we're too busy discussing time-stamps and who said what when to worry about whether Stephen tries this again or not!!

[ChriswUfGator]

Doc K, we're too busy discussing time-stamps and who said what when to worry about whether Stephen tries this again or not!!

Well, that's what usually happens when someone is "truth challenged" about timelines or what they previously wrote.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

From the article that I read FIRST:

True to form, I read the article and was mildly amused.  Very visual and entertaining.  What has become of the series, though?  One bus trip to the extents of the system and you gave up?

And yes I did read the article based on your suggestion. 

C'mon Chris - I gave you credit, jeez.  So what is it, can you not read or tell time?  JK