Rendering of the USS Charles F. Adams Naval Ship Downtown

[Lunican]

The Jacksonville Daily Record has a great rendering attached to this article:

Finance defers Adams ordinance: Budget vote looms

09/22/2010
by David Chapman
Staff Writer

With a full City Council budget vote looming next week, the final Council Finance Committee meeting Tuesday was anchors aweigh for Chair Daniel Davis, while one Downtown project was left unanchored for the time being.

An ordinance that would provide formal City support for the Jacksonville Historic Naval Ship Association to bring the retired naval vessel USS Charles F. Adams Downtown as a floating museum was deferred, to the dismay of Council member Bill Bishop, who sponsored the ordinance.

The ship association is raising funds to berth the vessel as a floating museum on the River City Brewing Company side of the Acosta Bridge, but needs City support to remove a dock in the area where the ship would be moored. The privately raised funds would go toward the dock’s removal.

While Bishop said there is no financial obligation to the City, and no incentives nor tax deferrals, other Council members decided to defer the matter until language concerns were resolved.

Full Article:
http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=531928

[copperfiend]

That is a great shot right there

[fieldafm]

That looks really nice!

It appears the group has or will about to be granted the necessary easement, pending successful private donation goals.

Would this mean the public boat ramp at RCBC be closed?

[fieldafm]

This is an interesting comment... would like to know more:

“Ron Barton doesn’t like this project,” said Bishop, referring to the JEDC executive director.

[CS Foltz]

This is an interesting comment... would like to know more:

“Ron Barton doesn’t like this project,” said Bishop, referring to the JEDC executive director.

Ditto from my end also............why doesn't Ron like this idea? Maybe he has grandiose plans for the Ship Yards we are not privy to?

[Ocklawaha]

That looks really nice!

It appears the group has or will about to be granted the necessary easement, pending successful private donation goals.

Would this mean the public boat ramp at RCBC be closed?

Not necessarily, it might just mean one hell of a long boarding dock alongside.


OCKLAWAHA

[Seraphs]

Looks good to me!

[simms3]

Love the rendering and the project.  I'm not too disappointed that council members want to review the language to make sure the taxpayer is protected, but my two worries are that

A) the Council Members are not exactly the most intelligent people in the room and will probably take a very long time to put the contract documents in front of an attorney

B) the current there is sooooo strong, I mean really strong.  Couldn't that pose a challenge for any major vessel to be moored there?

[fieldafm]

I don't think the current would have any effect on a large mooring.  Boats moored in Frisco are subject to harsher conditions.  RCBC Marina is tricky for small boats, but not devastatingly so.

I am PERFECTLY fine that the Council wants language that no City funds will be used for this project.  I like the idea, as long as no tax dollars are used.

[CS Foltz]

To those concerned about "Mooring" something the size of the Adams and maybe having a problem...........simple answer is "NO"! Lines amidship X'd (middle for those not conversent in ship speak) and fore and aft (front & rear) and doubled up (two of everything) should be just fine! Thats not the only way to do it, but the cheapest! USS Alabama is in a special dock and it went through Katrina...........it has not moved! Something similar could be done for the Adams also.........just a matter of the dollars!

[I-10east]

Dan Bean, an excutive at Holland & Knight, and retired Navy captain is at the helm concerning bringing in the USS Adams to the Shipyards.

www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=4713791&navCatId=20896

www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2013/11/20/uss-adams-project-sails-closer-to.html

http://wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Charles_F._Adams_%28DDG-2%29

[Keith-N-Jax]

Very nice!!!

[JayBird]

I wonder why they felt the need to make the hulls ship a graphic of the Jaguars? I have been a strong supporter of this, and believe it will eventually come. However it has taken almost 5 years to secure less than half of the $3M so I'm not sure a target date for mooring in DT next year is really accurate.

[MEGATRON]

I wonder why they felt the need to make the hulls ship a graphic of the Jaguars? I have been a strong supporter of this, and believe it will eventually come. However it has taken almost 5 years to secure less than half of the $3M so I'm not sure a target date for mooring in DT next year is really accurate.

I understand that there is a long way to go in regard to fundraising.  I would also want to make sure that enough money is raised to maintain the ship and dock in perpetuity.  This sounds like the type of thing where the city gets stuck with the maintenance 15 years down the road.

[thelakelander]

^You're looking at the glass being half empty. In the event something like that happens, we could place a rusty crane on an abandoned pier, next to a rusty hulking ship and call the entire thing the Haydon Burns Jacksonville Shipyards Memorial Wharf.