Q'uran Burning By Gainesville Nutcase.

[BridgeTroll]

book burnings dont really bother me.  Its hard to kill ideas.

Agreed... hence my anecdote regarding my experiance at SERE.  Which brings us back to the outrage by some regarding the burning of korans by someone who has never even read it.  Seems odd...

[buckethead]

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/285123/christians_in_gaza_fear_for_their_lives.html?cat=9


http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/05/20/us.military.bibles.burned/index.html

For starters.

[BridgeTroll]

So you are claiming a difference between a koran burning and a flag burning?

[buckethead]

My specimen? Not really. I was just spotting up a few examples.

Depending on who you ask, when the military burned the unsolicited bibles, it was due to the leftist in chief. Again, not my argument, but it was out there.

The equine mortality has been thouroughly demonstrated!

[BridgeTroll]

No I see the double standard fine, that's my point!

How can the same people object to that but then turn around and burn qurans, call women who get abortions whores, show up at every pride rally carrying "God Hates Fags" signs, and on and on and on? WTF? Seriously? So it's only religious intolerance if it happens to them?

Cool.  I look forward to your denunciations in the future when "left wing nutjobs" use sacrilegious symbolism to make a point.

Yep.  I await your denunciation...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article6723980.ece

[buckethead]

*in my best Obi Wan voice*

"Those aren't the leftist nutcases you are looking for.

Those leftist nutcases are free to move along."

[buckethead]

I must admit. Days with less to do would be much more boring without this site along with willing and capable debate opposition!

I must away! Duty calls!

[ChriswUfGator]

No I see the double standard fine, that's my point!

How can the same people object to that but then turn around and burn qurans, call women who get abortions whores, show up at every pride rally carrying "God Hates Fags" signs, and on and on and on? WTF? Seriously? So it's only religious intolerance if it happens to them?

Cool.  I look forward to your denunciations in the future when "left wing nutjobs" use sacrilegious symbolism to make a point.

Yep.  I await your denunciation...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article6723980.ece

Well you have to make exceptions for art, no?

If art never offended sensibilities, all we would have today would be baroque parlor scenes and oils of fruit sitting in a bowl. In fact, the Catholic church intentionally disposed of many of the world's greatest works following the collapse of the Roman empire because it offended their religious sensibilities. Not that they got rid of their own collections behind closed doors, mind you.

Much of what survived the various purges, including the destruction of virtually every historically significant bronze, survives because it escaped the detection of religious institutions. Art is art, and history has taught us we should cut a pass for that, lest we stifle creativity and deprive future generations of things they may find valuable, but which we may wrongly believe are immoral.

This Quran burning, along with Bible burning, etc., aren't any function of artistic expression. It's simply one religious group trying to piss off another. That's not art, it's just people treating each other like $h!t. This requires a different lens than the one we use to evaluate artistic expression.

But with all that said, I think that Bible-defacing exhibit in the UK is amateurish and in very poor taste.

[Doctor_K]

Well you have to make exceptions for art, no?

If art never offended sensibilities, all we would have today would be baroque parlor scenes and oils of fruit sitting in a bowl. In fact, the Catholic church intentionally disposed of many of the world's greatest works following the collapse of the Roman empire because it offended their religious sensibilities. Not that they got rid of their own collections behind closed doors, mind you.

Much of what survived the various purges, including the destruction of virtually every historically significant bronze, survives because it escaped the detection of religious institutions. Art is art, and history has taught us we should cut a pass for that, lest we stifle creativity and deprive future generations of things they may find valuable, but which we may wrongly believe are immoral.

This Quran burning, along with Bible burning, etc., aren't any function of artistic expression. It's simply one religious group trying to piss off another. That's not art, it's just people treating each other like $h!t. This requires a different lens than the one we use to evaluate artistic expression.

But with all that said, I think that Bible-defacing exhibit in the UK is amateurish and in very poor taste.

+1

And, IMO, the whole thing comes down to something along the lines of "my imaginary man in the sky is better than your imaginary man in the sky."  It's ridiculous and should be an embarrassment for anyone who associates with either of these religions, whether they consider themselves 'moderate' or 'normal' adherents to the religion.

But that's my opinion.

[DeadGirlsDontDance]

The level of terrorist attacks by Christian Fundamentalists is now where near the volume of terror by Islamic Fundamentalists.

http://www.youtube.com/v/X5McSEU48Y8

Sorry, it's Jews being persecuted in this video, but I couldn't find a funny video about Muslims being butchered during the Crusades.

[BridgeTroll]

This Quran burning, along with Bible burning, etc., aren't any function of artistic expression. It's simply one religious group trying to piss off another. That's not art, it's just people treating each other like $h!t. This requires a different lens than the one we use to evaluate artistic expression.

But with all that said, I think that Bible-defacing exhibit in the UK is amateurish and in very poor taste.

Agreed Chris.  For the sake of discussion lets go a step further... Suppose a mutton chopped "artist" created a piece of "art" desecrating the koran or insulting islam?  Apparently the Danes have a taste for it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy

[JC]

I really have no opinion on the act of burning anything, especially since I place no value in the Koran or Bible.  My outrage is at the reasoning behind the proposed burning and the result of such an action.  Again, there are too many US troops in places where people need a little nudge or excuse to further take up arms against our people.  It is this type of callousness insensitivity and lack of respect for the cultures of others that has gotten us into this mess in the first place.  Is the life of one person worth what this church is proposing?  I think the answer is no, but that is a conclusion he and his congregation need to reach because he has the right to be a moron, a right no one is taking away.  

[BridgeTroll]

I agree with your entire statement JC...

It is this type of callousness insensitivity and lack of respect for the cultures of others

This type of callousness and insensitivity... however... is not restricted to those on the religious right.

[Dog Walker]

BT, you are right.  I, for one, am completely callous and insensitive to those on the religious right of any religion.

[buckethead]

The level of terrorist attacks by Christian Fundamentalists is now where near the volume of terror by Islamic Fundamentalists.

http://www.youtube.com/v/X5McSEU48Y8

Sorry, it's Jews being persecuted in this video, but I couldn't find a funny video about Muslims being butchered during the Crusades.

I don't think they had YouTube in those days. It's only a matter of time till the Crusades come into the debate.

Not sure how it factors in any relevant way today though.