Q'uran Burning By Gainesville Nutcase.

Started by JC, August 28, 2010, 01:06:38 PM

Coolyfett

This Gatorfan Rev Jones doesnt even have a fire permit...and his home is in foreclosure.....It sux when people use religion to hide behind there extreme choices. I also think the media has overhyped it and actually helping this Gatorfan Jones guy. Where it is the ultimate sports weekend and this guy has this to do?
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DeadGirlsDontDance

"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it." ~Edith Sitwell

Cricket

We know that Chicago and DC and NY have their own share of first class idiots.  So why not Gainsville? ;D
"If we bring not the good courage of minds covetous of truth, and truth only, prepared to hear all things, and decide upon all things, according to evidence, we should do more wisely to sit down contented in ignorance, than to bestir ourselves only to reap disappointment."

buckethead

If were just talking about the fact that the guy is an idiot, I agree. Just look at those handlebars.

Now which one of our resident legal minds can tell me how to start an LLC quickly with very limited funds?

Coolyfett

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Coolyfett

Quote from: Cricket on September 09, 2010, 05:25:35 PM
We know that Chicago and DC and NY have their own share of first class idiots.  So why not Gainsville? ;D

The church has like 50 members....thats a small time church...how did a church like that get so much press...There facebook page could only do so much...unless they are on twitter? Man technology if used the wrong way.....Anyne could do this and get this instant fame. Signs of the times? Maybe....but you know this aint the last of the wackos we will see. No telling what we will experience in this next decade.
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buckethead

Some kook decided to act out. Some reporter decided it would get some hits on the interwebs.

Mission Accomplished!

buckethead

Quote from: buckethead on September 09, 2010, 04:50:51 PM
Obviously the guy is an inbred Neanderthal.

Where are my mosque supporting constitutionalists in support of this guy's right to burn any book he wishes?

Were all of you guys up in arms over the publicly funded "Piss Christ"?

If this guy wants to burn a Quran, is it not his right? Should he be forcible prevented from doing so?

Now if the worldwide Islamic community is calling for death to any or all Americans because of the acts of a deranged hillbilly, what does that say for Islam?

Bolded above is a misstatement on my part. I suppose a vestige of my reactionary right wing indoctrination.

Looking at the loonybird who initiated this mess, it occurs to me that he is the counterpart to those who ultimately become tyrannical religio-political despots. Deadgirls correctly notes this about all religious zealots.

The Mosque issue comes back to mind and I should not lump the whole of Islam in with those rarified zealots calling for blood. I would not lump Christians into a group with the Right Reverend Handlebars.

Coolyfett

Quote from: buckethead on September 09, 2010, 05:53:58 PM
Some kook decided to act out. Some reporter decided it would get some hits on the interwebs.

Mission Accomplished!
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Is that the right way to spell KOOK? I wont to use the word earlier but was unsure the official spelling. I like the word KOOK! its Kooky.
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buckethead

#39
Do you believe the US government was right to fund the Piss Christ?

I understand your point, but if governments are to fund art, they are also to censor it. Any art not funded by the gov is censored (de facto).

Additionally, if art is publicly funded, should the public have any voice in which art is accepted for funding?

If Bridge Troll burns a quran, Koran whatevs... Photographs it and names it "The Book From Hell" should he be eligible for public funding to produce it and other similar works of "Art". {art being a hoax}?

You know how that BT is. :P

You also stated that "Teh religious right pretty much established it wasn't alright etc..."

What on earth does that mean?

Charles Hunter

Latest reports are that the NY Imam says he never talked to the FL Imam, and there is no deal in place.  The FL Imam said he wanted to defuse the situation - and stop the Q'uran burning this weekend, a high holy time for Muslims.  The pastor said he will be upset if he was lied to or misled.

This ain't over folks.

buckethead


buckethead

Is it censorship to disallow pastor klampett his book burning statement?

I would argue the Piss Christ issue was about censorship. A majority of persons were offended by that particular work of "art", and demanded that their tax dollars not be used to subsidize it.

This church being tax exempt, though relevant (point taken as valid) is not the same as direct funding from taxpayers to perform his book burning jubilee.

I have often considered becoming a reverend myself, though book burning would not be part of my "ministry".

DeadGirlsDontDance

Quote from: buckethead on September 09, 2010, 08:08:01 PM
Is it censorship to disallow pastor klampett his book burning statement?

Is it censorship to stop somebody from running around drunkenly insulting people who may want to kick their ass? No. It is not censorship to apply social pressure to try to prevent somebody from acting like a douchebag.

Nobody is questioning his right to burn the Quran, but whether he should exercise that right. (Which he shouldn't, because if nothing else, it's atrocious bad manners.)
"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it." ~Edith Sitwell

buckethead

#44
I agree with both comments as it pertains to social pressure. I would not support any of his actions. (I read the guy's rule book for "trainees".)

I disagree, however that the piss christ issue is the same. It was publicly funded and the public has the right to force it's government to refrain from funding that which it finds objectionable. It is different than having the limitation of social/peer pressure.

In short, PissChrist and other similar art works are still legal, and I'm sure they continue to be produced. Just not produced with public funding. There is also little audible opposition to such works of art or religious/political statements which are not publicly funded.
(no tangible threat of widespread violence or mass murder)