Yarborough: Non-Christian Prayers Could Spell Trouble!

[buckethead]

It doesnt make disagreeing with him non democratic.  What a load of dingo kidneys.

I don't think that was the point I was making. FWIW, I disagree with him.

[buckethead]

Just a little rant illustrating the dangers of majority rule.

[Cliffs_Daughter]

.... validate non-Christian religions....

Like they weren't valid to begin with?? Ah, such ignorance... must be awful to have one's bliss interrupted by reality.

[copperfiend]

.... validate non-Christian religions....

Like they weren't valid to begin with?? Ah, such ignorance... must be awful to have one's bliss interrupted by reality.

I have almost come to expect this by so many people in our town that I missed that aspect of the quote.

[ChriswUfGator]

.... validate non-Christian religions....

Like they weren't valid to begin with?? Ah, such ignorance... must be awful to have one's bliss interrupted by reality.

I have almost come to expect this by so many people in our town that I missed that aspect of the quote.

Preaching to the choir here...excuse the pun.

Ever pay attention to how many of these in-your-face right wingers insist on that "Have a BLESSED day" thing, instead of just saying "Thank you" or "Goodbye" around here? I know it's a minor annoyance, but it's one that wouldn't be tolerated on such a widespread basis in an open environment.

[Jaxson]

Yes, the foundation of our country stands on Judeo-Christian beliefs and values, etc.  This foundation, however, must not be very strong if it all can come crashing down based on a moment of interfaith prayer... 

[tufsu1]

so let's just take this in the simplest form

assume our country was founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs/values....what would be thr problem of having a Rabbi give the invocation at Council?

Mr. Yarborough is sadly misguided....I even suspect that Mac Brunson of FBC wouldn't go this far.

[Jaxson]

so let's just take this in the simplest form

assume our country was founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs/values....what would be thr problem of having a Rabbi give the invocation at Council?

Mr. Yarborough is sadly misguided....I even suspect that Mac Brunson of FBC wouldn't go this far.

That is a good question.  We don't hear much from the Jewish community about this issue.  I guess that, as long as fundamentalists focus on excluding the Muslims, they will be able to slant the issue in their favor.

[tufsu1]

I disagree...the article includes quotes from the Rabbi of the Temple...who is also a member of OneJax, a community-wide organization comprised of variosu religions.

[finehoe]

assume our country was founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs/values....what would be thr problem of having a Rabbi give the invocation at Council?

You have to remember that placing the "Judeo" before the "Christian" is of relatively recent vintage.  Up until around the middle of the last century, Jews tended to be as despised by so-called Christians as Muslims or Gays are now.

[Jaxson]

I disagree...the article includes quotes from the Rabbi of the Temple...who is also a member of OneJax, a community-wide organization comprised of variosu religions.

O.K., he is quoted in one article.  But I want to know more.

[Doctor_K]

Preaching to the choir here...excuse the pun.

Ever pay attention to how many of these in-your-face right wingers insist on that "Have a BLESSED day" thing, instead of just saying "Thank you" or "Goodbye" around here? I know it's a minor annoyance, but it's one that wouldn't be tolerated on such a widespread basis in an open environment.

I've more than once wanted to respond to "Have a blessed day" with something random like "and may the gods also smile upon you" (emphasis on plural gods) just to see what kind of a reaction I'd get.

Come to think of it, the next time I do hear that I will do just that.  Makes me wish I had a good video-taking ability on my phone to instantly post here.

[Captain Zissou]

I don't see why we need a prayer before the meetings anyway. Or, why does our city council need a chaplain??  To me, this seems like a massive violation of the seperation of church and state.  I am a Christian myself, but I am embarrassed that people like Clay Yarborough claim to be one too.  Christianity is about loving non-believers and accepting them, not accusing them of ruining our city. 

I do take issue with this comment.

And it's more evidence to StephenDare's posit of the hijacking and corruption of the Republican/Conservative movement in the US by right-wing fundamentalist whacko nut-jobs who wear their religion on their sleeves and flags.

I can see where you are coming from, and I think that may be true in Jax, but I don't think that is accurate to say that about our country as a whole.  The 'nut-jobs' get a lot of press because they are indeed whacko and ignorant and it's hilarious, but i don't think they are representative of the conservative party. 

[finehoe]

The 'nut-jobs' get a lot of press because they are indeed whacko and ignorant and it's hilarious, but i don't think they are representative of the conservative party. 

The "conservative" party sure likes to pander to those nut-jobs, though.

[Doctor_K]

The 'nut-jobs' get a lot of press because they are indeed whacko and ignorant and it's hilarious, but i don't think they are representative of the conservative party. 

The "conservative" party sure likes to pander to those nut-jobs, though.

Indeed.  But I think that's a function more about getting votes under a two-umbrella-party system more than anything else.  There are whack-jobs on the Right and there are whack-jobs on the Left.  None of which think that they're the whack-jobs.

I can see where you are coming from, and I think that may be true in Jax, but I don't think that is accurate to say that about our country as a whole.  The 'nut-jobs' get a lot of press because they are indeed whacko and ignorant and it's hilarious, but i don't think they are representative of the conservative party.

I am of the opinion that it's more prevalent than you realize; or at least more widespread than just Jax. 

Take Bill McCollum's latest campaign ad against Rick Scott: "he worked with the Mexican Playboy company to produce material you wouldn't want your kids to see" and "his hospital performed all these abortions". 

Certainly two strong points from the Christian Conservative camp: smut and abortion.  Which, IMO, is more a Christian issue than a Conservative issue.  Or put another way - it's a religious ideology point versus a political ideology point issue.  Again with the Church & State.

(Disclaimer - I really don't have any interest one way or the other with the McCollum/Scott race - just using it as an example)