Landing bill moves forward without preservation funds, but mayor may veto

Started by thelakelander, May 17, 2010, 09:50:17 PM

fieldafm

Quote from: stjr on June 22, 2010, 10:47:47 PM
Quote from: fieldafm on June 22, 2010, 10:37:24 PM
.... a decades long family feud.

And, what would that be?  Give us the juicy details.

Honestly, its unproductive to go into it.  This round, Peyton lost and now maybe WE as a community will all win b/c of it.

fsujax

I hope that Sleiman can now deliver on attracting a national tenant.

fieldafm

Quote from: stephendare on June 23, 2010, 09:00:19 AM
Trail Ridge is a terrible example, incidentally.  They made out with a potential billion dollar profit off of energy generation, and not one of our knuckleheads did a thing about it.

That's actually a very good point.

comncense

So does this mean the plans of "opening" up the Landing to Water Street is still in the can? *that was Water St. they were talking about opening the building structure to, right?*

duvaldude08

Quote from: comncense on June 23, 2010, 09:38:48 AM
So does this mean the plans of "opening" up the Landing to Water Street is still in the can? *that was Water St. they were talking about opening the building structure to, right?*

Yes. From the last thing I remember He promised renovations if the city would provide him the 3.5 million for parking.
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Captain Zissou

Quote from: duvaldude08 on June 23, 2010, 09:40:56 AM
Quote from: comncense on June 23, 2010, 09:38:48 AM
So does this mean the plans of "opening" up the Landing to Water Street is still in the can? *that was Water St. they were talking about opening the building structure to, right?*

Yes. From the last thing I remember He promised renovations if the city would provide him the 3.5 million for parking.

I think common is asking about opening the courtyard to Water.  I may be wrong.  That is not on the table right now.  Sleiman is interested in getting storefronts to address Water and some patio seating where Andrew Jackson currently sits.

comncense


Doctor_K

So hopefully this isn't too off-topic, but the parking lot north of the Omni is what we're dealing with here, yes?  That said, are the Omni and that other tower with which it shares a lobby going to have to 'open up' to the foot traffic that will (hopefully) be generated through there for people to get from the parking lot to the Landing?

Having that parking lot and garage so close to a Skyway stop (albeit not connected) will eventually help boost ridership there, no?

Or am I thinking of the wrong lot?
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."  -- Albert Einstein

fieldafm

Its the lot OPPOSITE this one




Couple of points... Sleiman does have skin in the game(he is putting up something over $2mm in cash to purchase the lot) and the city does have a safeguard in place if the lot is sold in the future(interest is paid back at prime plus 1%).

Doc, yes the Omni would be really wise to face their street level restaurants outside.

Duval, a total reconfiguration of the building was cognizant on being able to buy the land UNDER the building.  That being said, once the Andrew Jackson Statue is removed... outdoor seating will hopefully soon follow.

Doctor_K

Thanks field.

I wonder why they couldn't just agree on that lot in your picture.  Would've been that much closer.  Could've even used part of the parking deck under that one building-that-never-got-built-but-still-could-one-day on that parcel.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."  -- Albert Einstein

thelakelander

^A third party owns the lot in the picture, meaning a realistic deal involving that lot would have cost significantly more to only achieve the same thing.
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Doctor_K

"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."  -- Albert Einstein

tufsu1

Quote from: stephendare on June 23, 2010, 09:00:19 AM
Trail Ridge is a terrible example, incidentally.  They made out with a potential billion dollar profit off of energy generation, and not one of our knuckleheads did a thing about it.

that's because the City would have lost its shirt in a lawsuit...and, after losing out on the first "good" deal offered by WMI, they finally figured it out!


simms3

We must not forget that Sleiman is sly.  He is very manipulative in just about all of his deals, and he is the one responsible for half of our awful strip centers we so despise.  I am giving Mayor Peyton the benefit of the doubt on this because while Peyton is certainly not a great mayor and very shortsighted with vision, he is shrewd with business/money and he may know something that we do not.  Regardless, I would more than love to see the Landing have parking and be opened up just the like the rest of us.
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