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[OhJay]

I was riding on hart expressway "the sports district" and i was thinking bout how people complain how there isnt enough hotel space...true...but hotels are being built just not in the areas we would like them too...the proposed bank hotel will help alot but not so much the sports district...hotels should look into building hotels in the sports district...when the proposed shipyard condos were up and about it really wasn't on anyones mind. instead of a condominium it should have been a hotel. close enough to the sports district it would have been alot of help when visitors came down for the college games, it still can happen if we get the right person to do it... it was just a though in my head...what do you think

[buckethead]

I'm not sure there is enough year round demand for hotel space in the sports district.

If we had MLB, NBA, NHL along with our NFL franchise, it would be different. Let's master sustaining our NFL franchise first.

[OhJay]

I'm not sure there is enough year round demand for hotel space in the sports district.

If we had MLB, NBA, NHL along with our NFL franchise, it would be different. Let's master sustaining our NFL franchise first.

yea now that you put it that way...it might be years for a project like that  to take place...with a baseball team whos non-relevant,and a football tea whose on the rocks. Jacksonville isn't your sport city, and i doubt a sports team manager will take the respect for a sport team in this town seriously

[brainstormer]

Bucket is right.  I don't see a hotel making it near the sports district until there is more development around it.  Someday with the development of a couple more business towers, an aquarium, residential units and more retail, you might see a hotel make it near the stadium.

[Coolyfett]

I was riding on hart expressway "the sports district" and i was thinking bout how people complain how there isnt enough hotel space...true...but hotels are being built just not in the areas we would like them too...the proposed bank hotel will help alot but not so much the sports district...hotels should look into building hotels in the sports district...when the proposed shipyard condos were up and about it really wasn't on anyones mind. instead of a condominium it should have been a hotel. close enough to the sports district it would have been alot of help when visitors came down for the college games, it still can happen if we get the right person to do it... it was just a though in my head...what do you think

Not a bad idea. You should post more ideas more often, dont hold back you will be surprised who agrees are disagrees.

Jax does need hotels in the Talleyrand Sports Complex area. I know Jax get crap about the cruise ship thing, but was that not unique experience. I thought people liked cruiseships? A floating hotel seems like cool idea, even in 2010. Shut me down if anyone disagrees, but say example....A cruisebased in Jax works with Jax to provide those rooms. Ive never been on a cruise ship, are their rooms really that bad?

[heights unknown]

I agree. No justification at present for a major hotel, or even a minor one or two in the sports district.  Other than the Jags there's just not much to almost nothing going on to support a hotel.

"HU"

[duvaldude08]

I was thinking about that the other day. Even where the shipyards property is it would be a good idea to put 2 or three hotels. As far as demand, a hotel is a hotel. If the Hyatt and crown plaza can survive downtown, Im sure one or to more hotels wont hurt nothing. I think its a good idea that will work.

[Timkin]

Bucket is right.  I don't see a hotel making it near the sports district until there is more development around it.  Someday with the development of a couple more business towers, an aquarium, residential units and more retail, you might see a hotel make it near the stadium.

This is probably why no one ever resurrected the Park View Inn/Heart of Jacksonville Hotel...

[Seraphs]

I was riding on hart expressway "the sports district" and i was thinking bout how people complain how there isnt enough hotel space...true...but hotels are being built just not in the areas we would like them too...the proposed bank hotel will help alot but not so much the sports district...hotels should look into building hotels in the sports district...when the proposed shipyard condos were up and about it really wasn't on anyones mind. instead of a condominium it should have been a hotel. close enough to the sports district it would have been alot of help when visitors came down for the college games, it still can happen if we get the right person to do it... it was just a though in my head...what do you think

Not a bad idea. You should post more ideas more often, dont hold back you will be surprised who agrees are disagrees.

Jax does need hotels in the Talleyrand Sports Complex area. I know Jax get crap about the cruise ship thing, but was that not unique experience. I thought people liked cruiseships? A floating hotel seems like cool idea, even in 2010. Shut me down if anyone disagrees, but say example....A cruisebased in Jax works with Jax to provide those rooms. Ive never been on a cruise ship, are their rooms really that bad?

Cruise ship rooms aren't bad, a little on the cozy side but really pretty nice.  The ones with balconies are really nice.

[Ocklawaha]

I'm not sure there is enough year round demand for hotel space in the sports district.

If we had MLB, NBA, NHL along with our NFL franchise, it would be different. Let's master sustaining our NFL franchise first.

yea now that you put it that way...it might be years for a project like that  to take place...with a baseball team whos non-relevant,and a football tea whose on the rocks. Jacksonville isn't your sport city, and i doubt a sports team manager will take the respect for a sport team in this town seriously

I wouldn't be so negative so as to count Jacksonville out of the game. Major tier one cities, will also have a host of executive level hotels... Thus the Omni, Hyatt, Crown Plaza, Hilton, will survive based on repeat business from long time loyal customers. Don't expect a experienced business traveler to abandon the comforts and perks of his/her favorite hotel as long as it's available somewhere within the urban core.

Therefore we SHOULD have at least one of each of the major 5 star hotels downtown. In a metro bed market as large as ours I'd expect some botique, specialty or mom and pop hotels to thrive within the same crowd.

Our "stadium district" is mislabeled two ways. ONE: the REAL name is FAIRFIELD, it was the largest, most complete, and only urban community to survive the great fire of 1901 without a scratch.  TWO: Calling this the "Stadium District" is misleading when we have a major children's park, an expensive but complete music park, Sound Stages and complete film and music studio. Don't forget the Tailgate Party place. Add in the fairgrounds and expo buildings, Bob Hayes statue and his home site.

Amazingly, the neighborhood has "plans" for a large hotel on the NE corner of Arlington Expressway and AP Randolph. They are also vocal supporters of Streetcar and Rail in general and would like to see the old Florida Avenue streetcar line and the one-time famous business district roar back to life.

Another call beyond the NFL games, are the minor leagues or lower attendance professionals. The Sharks are off to a fantastic start, The Sun's have been around almost as long as the planet. The many events, concerts, shows, and such at the Arena...  I dunno but sounds to me like FAIRFIELD IS LEADING!

Have a shred of pride, some faith, and don't be so quick to sell out our urban center as a has been. Want to see us in a nearly perfect reflection? DALLAS - 1970... only we're bigger then they were at the time. Just like the discussion of the Skyway extension to the "Stadium" or the Streetcar to Randolph, there is a hell of a lot more to Fairfield then a dozen games a year.


OCKLAWAHA

[CS Foltz]

Well Ock...........if they have to build it, Ship Yards is a better location in relation to downtown, at least that's my view! Either way, Convention Center (a real one) and the peripheral business's along with a  Hotel and then a people moving system of some sort that operates for a reasonable cost and reasonable hours that would actually go somewhere!

[OhJay]

I was thinking about that the other day. Even where the shipyards property is it would be a good idea to put 2 or three hotels. As far as demand, a hotel is a hotel. If the Hyatt and crown plaza can survive downtown, Im sure one or to more hotels wont hurt nothing. I think its a good idea that will work.

my point exactly

[copperfiend]

If the city ever gets it right and builds a new convention center where the existing courthouse is, there will be more demand for hotel space in that area. I have always said that the shipyards space would be ideal for an aquarium. That strech could be something special.

[OhJay]

If the city ever gets it right and builds a new convention center where the existing courthouse is, there will be more demand for hotel space in that area. I have always said that the shipyards space would be ideal for an aquarium. That strech could be something special.

i never though about that but i guess that would be a great location by the water, but i doubt the city would have enough sense to build another convention center...if it does happen john peyton will be 30 years out of the office...and another thought is...instead of worrying about the core the city should be worrying about trying to turn fairfield/sports distric/tallyrand/that area more appealing to the visitors and citizens in the city

[Wacca Pilatka]

Another factor to consider (for now) is that it's extremely easy to drive to Jaguar games, and both easy and very pleasant to take the water taxi to the game.  Many out-of-towners choose the water taxi.  When Sports Illustrated ran a detailed survey of each NFL team's gameday experiences a couple of years ago, there were a ton of raves about the taxi.  If most out-of-towners want to stay in the heart of downtown (or on the Southbank) and commute to the game that way, it's not going to create any sort of market for a hotel near the stadium.  And that's not a bad thing, I don't think, because a big part of getting the flavor of Jacksonville is spending time in the core and on the river.  That should be an essential part of every visitor's experience.