Offshore Oil Drilling and the Oil Rig Disaster in the Gulf

Started by RiversideGator, April 30, 2008, 01:14:37 AM

Do you support Oil Drilling off of Florida's First Coast?

Yes
No

Bostech

Legalize Marijuana,I need something to calm me down after I watch Fox News.

If Jesus was alive today,Republicans would call him gay and Democrats would put him on food stamps.

cybertique

This is an abomination to god. I fear for the beautiful beaches and ecosystem that was the state of Florida that i grew up in and is now at risk.

Bostech

Legalize Marijuana,I need something to calm me down after I watch Fox News.

If Jesus was alive today,Republicans would call him gay and Democrats would put him on food stamps.

finehoe

BP hires Cheney press secretary to handle catastrophe PR

  By John Tomasic 6/4/10 4:13 PM
British Petroleum’s brand is suffering as much as its stock price, both sinking as fast as oil from its ruptured well pipes is rising in the Gulf of Mexico. The corporation has moved to stem the bleeding by hiring public relations specialist Anne Womack-Kolton, an expert in “high stakes communications surrounding public affairs issues and political risk management,” according to her Brunswick Group profile. Kolton was director of public affairs at the U.S. Department of Energy. She was also Dick Cheney’s press secretary.

British Petroleum has, in effect, turned to its rolodex and drawn from the listings under Cheney’s name to find someone to smooth the widespread impression that BP has been in bed with lawmakers for years and flouted regulations in order to generate profits at the expense of the American people. The move will no doubt strike some as yet another BP management blunderâ€" a PR misstep in managing its PR.

From the UK Guardian:

Seemingly aware of its rock-bottom public image, BP this week hired Anne Womack-Kolton, once press secretary to the former vice-president Dick Cheney, to bolster its public relations effort in the US. A CBS poll found that 70 percent of Americans disapprove of the way BP has handled the oil spill. And the worst has yet to come: so far relatively little oil has washed up on the US coast; in the weeks ahead, images of stricken birdlife, clogged marshland and blackened beaches are likely to be ubiquitous.

From PR NewsWire:

Womack-Kolton was director of public affairs at the U.S. Department of Energy. At Brunswick, she is “focused on high stakes communications surrounding public affairs issues and political risk management for domestic and global corporate clients.”

“Anne has broad communications experience at the highest levels of government and brings to Brunswick a deep understanding of the regulatory and political issues facing the private sector,” said David Shapiro, a Brunswick partner in the D.C. office. “Actions in Washington increasingly affect the bottom lines of our clients, and Ms. Kolton is expert at communicating with policy makers and the media.”

Before joining the Department of Energy, Ms. Kolton was Director of Public Affairs for the U.S. Department of the Treasury, where she was the primary spokesperson on issues and policy related to financial markets, financial institutions and financial education. She has extensive on-the-record experience with the media, particularly those covering energy and finance. Ms. Kolton also served as an advisor to Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman William Donaldson, as a White House spokesperson and on major state and national political campaigns.

Kolton has been at the heart of “government relations” or what’s otherwise known as lobbying for the energy and finance industries, which have put the American people on the hook for trillions in damages these past two years mostly by skirting or defeating efforts to regulate them. Now it appears she’s being commissioned to spin the fall out.


Timkin

Well...she probably will have a way with words , so to speak, but for the Gulf residents, spinning the fallout will fall on deaf ears.  BP needs to make right this disaster in any way they possibly can for as many years as it takes to make it right. Our president also needs to make sure he is doing everything he possibly can to make right what is wrong. He did not , per se  cause the leak ,but he is the President, and with that duty comes this duty.  He owes it to every American and in particular, those who will suffer consequenses of this for years to come, to make this right.  Words are of little value without continuous, constant and 100% action.

Dog Walker

Oil and water CAN mix.  Just look in your kitchen.  Oil, water containing egg whites and emulsifier (dispersant) and agitation makes mayonnaise.  Looks like they might have made a Frankenstein version by injecting the dispersant into the raising oil so we have underwater currents of crude oil mayonnaise floating around.

YIKES! 
When all else fails hug the dog.

Bostech

What a joke,and federal government is covering up for BP.There is something going on here,they dont want to stop flow oil.

They call new method "sucess",am I only one that noticed that they are arely capturing 10% of oil if that.
They say they are capturing 33% but thats BS,since they cut pipe which increased flow 20% so in reality they are capturing 11% if that.
If flow is even greater than its posible that this new method has increased oil spill into Gulf even with new capturing method.

Legalize Marijuana,I need something to calm me down after I watch Fox News.

If Jesus was alive today,Republicans would call him gay and Democrats would put him on food stamps.

Timkin


BridgeTroll

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/07/lafourche.parish.oil.impact/index.html?hpt=C1

QuoteGround zero for oil disaster suffers double whammy from moratorium
By Jessica Ravitz, CNN

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Before disaster, Lafourche Parish had state's lowest unemployment rate
Port Fourchon services 90 percent of deepwater gulf oil activity
Effect of moratorium may ripple beyond Louisiana

A salesman who supplies cleaning agents to oil rigs, primarily the deepwater kind, wonders how he'll get by on 10 percent of his income.

A woman hangs her head in her shutdown roadside bait shed, dreading this year's bills, not knowing how she and her husband will pay them.

These are just some of the faces of this southern Louisiana parish, which in many ways is ground zero for the extended oil disaster's fallout. Their pain is immediate, and most say the rest of the country will soon feel the hurt, too.

In April, before the Deepwater Horizon oil rig explosion changed everything, Lafourche Parish boasted the lowest unemployment rate in the state, 4.4 percent according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics -- ranking it among the best-off places in the nation.

And while the people who live here are as sickened as anyone by the oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico and seeping into their bayous, they are equally upset by the moratorium placed on the oil rigs they serve.

"I keep trying to find the adjective to describe the impact on us," says Charlotte Randolph, the parish president. "I still haven't found the word."

The motto for this place tells at least part of the story. Lafourche Parish: "Feeding & fueling America." It's the kind of place where company pickups traveling to industrial sites cross estuaries carrying old fishing boats, where smokestacks spew on the other side of green and serene marshlands and where from rustic docks or sandy ridges one can spot oil rigs on the gulf's horizon.

Fishing is deeply rooted in this parish's history and remains a favorite pastime for those who grew up trawling and trapping with their grandfathers. Its ties to the shrimp, oyster and crab trade helped bring Louisiana the distinction of supplying anywhere from 25 to 30 percent of seafood to the lower 48 states, according to the Louisiana Seafood Promotion & Marketing Board.

"If you eat crab cakes in Maryland, odds are they're coming from our waters," Randolph says.

But those who fish have always struggled against the uncertainty of seasonal work. The competition of, for example, cheaper shrimp farmed in foreign lands has strapped them with more recent challenges. It is the parish's other lifeblood -- oil -- that changed life here, opened up opportunities, increased parish revenues and made futures seem more secure.

Nine out of 10 of the top taxpayers in the parish today, Randolph says, are in businesses related to oil and gas. About 8,500 people, in a population of less than 95,000, are expected to directly lose their jobs amid the rig suspensions, according to Chett Chiasson, executive director of the Greater Lafourche Port Commission.

Indirectly, he and others say, many more will suffer.

Chiasson oversees operations out of Port Fourchon, an expansive industrial port which is a base for 250 companies -- everything from the names we all know, like Shell, Chevron and BP to more obscure businesses offering mud equipment, drilling fluids and diving services. It's a lifeline to the gulf's oil industry, but on this day it's not business as usual. It's quiet, not the picture of bustling big business.

From this port, about 90 percent of all deepwater gulf oil activity or 18 percent of the nation's oil supply is serviced, Chiasson says, and all of the 33 suspended deepwater rigs are supported.

The deepwater rigs are the ones that require the most outside help. In other words, those fuel the most jobs.

There are 121 oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico, but only 60 are currently working and that number will continue to drop, according to Tom Marsh, a vice president at ODS-Petrodata, a firm that provides intelligence and consulting to the offshore industry. A dozen deepwater rigs have already gone idle. The other 21 are working to safely shut down.

Thousands of production platforms -- what's put in place after a rig has drilled a well -- dot the gulf, but most of them don't need operating personnel on a continuing basis, Marsh explains. Fifty percent of Port Fourchon business, Chiasson expects, will fall away because of the moratorium.

Already, he says, Schlumberger -- an oilfields service provider -- has shut down its port operations, Exxon let go nine vessels that service the gulf's oil industry, and other company cuts are sure to follow.

Helicopter companies in Lafourche transport 15,000 workers each month to offshore oil sites, and Rodney Doucet, a parish councilman, says layoffs have begun. The 1,200 truckers who bring daily supplies to Port Fourchon are only paid if they're hauling, and they're only hauling if their supplies are needed. Mechanics who service vehicles, equipment renters, even a tattoo artist fears lost income.

"If they're not working, I'm not working," Bobby Pitre, 33, says outside his tattoo parlor in Larose, Louisiana. Nearby are murals he's painted and art he's created to voice his concerns. A life-sized model of an adult wearing a gas mask and a child -- and a fish -- dripping in oil bears a sign that reads, "God Help Us All."

And it's not just workers in Lafourche Parish or even Louisiana who will feel the pinch, parish officials say. The wires used on rigs come from Texas, the gears from Ohio and the motors from Tennessee, they say.

A corporate office for a company producing drill bits in Houston, Texas, is abuzz with worry, says Doucet, who has a nephew working there. The councilman, who's bounced between commercial fishing and oil industry work over the years, now sells electrical supplies that support oil work. He's fretting about his own livelihood and those of his small staff.

He may "have to fire five people," he says. "One of them's my wife."

License plates from all over the country fill parking lots at helicopter launching sites, officials add, further illustrating how the local impact will reverberate outward.

For worldwide oil companies that have no loyalty to any one region, picking up their rigs and moving to drill elsewhere -- thereby increasing U.S. dependence on foreign oil -- is inevitable, they say. With contracts now void, they say these money-making companies aren't going to just sit around for six months. Chiasson confirms that already two of the 33 suspended rigs are on track to leave -- likely to Brazil or Nigeria -- and other companies, he says, will do the same.

Fewer domestic oil ventures in the gulf, they want people to realize, means less for Americans everywhere.

Each year, the U.S. Treasury rakes in $5 billion to $7 billion in royalties from Gulf of Mexico oil and gas, an amount the port executive says is second only to what the Internal Revenue Service brings in. CNN confirmed that those royalty figures are accurate and the statement about the IRS was, at least until 2004. But even if that's no longer the case, it's still a lot of government money, and Lafourche Parish officials warn that lost royalties may mean slashed funds to support, maintain or expand bridges, roads and schools across the country.

Another piece that really gets to Randolph is this: When 29 coal miners died in West Virginia, just weeks before the oil rig exploded and killed 11, it wasn't as if all mines doing similar work were issued a cease and desist order, she says. Immediate and thorough inspections of the rigs were warranted and most likely were conducted in haste by the companies that run them, she says. But a six-month freeze makes little sense to her.

"We don't want to defend wrong actions," she says, but she believes President Barack Obama "went too far," and she told him as much when she sat down with him one-on-one during one of his recent visits to the region.

She wants to know: "Are there Americans that are more important than other Americans?"

The need for alternative energy sources is something she can get behind.

"We understand. We're standing in pools of oil," she says, "But that transition will not come overnight."

On the other side of the toll bridge leading to Port Fourchon, the fishing enclave of Leeville struggles to make sense of its new reality. Tanned fishermen, still wearing their rubber boots even though they're not working, commiserate with thick Cajun accents and kick stones as they stroll down the deserted road. They seem outnumbered by out-of-town corporate consultant types -- many of whom wear logoed company shirts as they feast over large plates at Leeville Seafood Restaurant.

Owner Harris Cheramie, 65, talks about how he's hurting. With so many fishing areas closed, seafood prices are up. His customer base for the past 14 years, out-of-town commercial and recreational fishermen, has all but disappeared.

Over Memorial Day last year, he says, he served up to 200 people in a night. This year, he served 46 -- almost all of them local residents. But he's not mad at the oil industry and doesn't want drilling to stop.

"Everything you have is made of oil -- fiberglass, carpets, plastic," he says. "I don't blame BP. Things happen."

It's the not knowing what will happen next that leaves him and others rattled.

For 33 years, Don Griffin and his brother have held tight to their Leeville business, Griffin's Marina & Ice. Between their small grocery store, restaurant, ice plant and fuel dock, they've continued to service commercial and recreational fishermen despite an onslaught of challenges.

They've cleaned up floods and bounced back from a long list of hurricanes -- Katrina, Rita and Ike to name a few. And they rebuilt after a fire ravaged their business in September 2008.

"You always come back. You know you have an end in sight," he says. "We're treading in waters that have never come before."

Nearby, his longest-standing employee looks on, the worry etched in her face. Three of her co-workers have already been let go, and Dodie-Dee Thomassie, who has worked for the Griffins for nearly 20 years and began as a high school student, wouldn't be surprised if her days are numbered, too.

The lines out the door at breakfast time aren't there anymore. The last time their restaurant sold anything to eat was days ago -- and that was four biscuits. At the grocery counter, she oversees a quiet store interrupted occasionally by someone who wants a soda, pack of gum or lottery ticket.

"We don't have people, so how are they going to keep me?" she says. "I'm not stupid."

About the only comfort she has right now is that her husband, a commercial shrimper, just got hired to help with the oil cleanup. With her house and her husband's boat paid off, she felt about as secure as any American could before the rig explosion rocked the world she knows.

Whether it's the simple pleasures of recreational fishing or the necessity of work to pay bills, people in this southern Louisiana parish are facing immediate losses. But to hear it from them, Americans who've never seen oil rigs while trawling bayous will soon have plenty to mourn themselves.

Just wait, they say. Just wait.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Bostech

I guess everyone is getting tired of oil spill and talking about.
Legalize Marijuana,I need something to calm me down after I watch Fox News.

If Jesus was alive today,Republicans would call him gay and Democrats would put him on food stamps.

finehoe

Quote from: Bostech on June 08, 2010, 02:13:06 PM
I guess everyone is getting tired of oil spill and talking about.

I'm sure that's what BP is counting on.

stjr

Here is an idea:  Any fines, penalties, or punitive damages BP pays should be required to fund mass transit solutions in the states they impacted.  I would imagine Florida would be eligible for a significant amount to fund our mass transit thereby reducing the pressure to continue expanding offshore drilling and the risks attendant with it.
Hey!  Whatever happened to just plain ol' COMMON SENSE!!

Timkin

Im not tired of talking about the oil Spill.  and I think BP is criminal in their actions of hiding the actual realities of this spill.  They do not have enough money to fix this environmental disaster..they do not want to expend the money to suck up and seperate this mess THEY made!   They should pay repeatedly and continuously even if it bankrupts them ( I know it will not , the laws on these matters protect the criminal , in this case BP)  to clean these Beaches and Marshes, and they should be made to extract the millions of gallons spewing into the Ocean daily.  This is an infuriating situation.  Why are they not being made to really fix this problem?  Why is our Federal Government and our President letting them kill us with these pollutants in our oceans?  They have made billions and they made a multi-billion dollar (conservative figure) spill happen that COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED !!!!!!!   They are not doing enough about this .

Tired of talking about the spill ???  not even close !

Timkin

Quote from: Dog Walker on June 05, 2010, 02:35:58 PM
Oil and water CAN mix.  Just look in your kitchen.  Oil, water containing egg whites and emulsifier (dispersant) and agitation makes mayonnaise.  Looks like they might have made a Frankenstein version by injecting the dispersant into the raising oil so we have underwater currents of crude oil mayonnaise floating around.


YIKES! 


This crap they created to hide this (and they really did not hide boo-squat ) is what I am referring to .. BP should be extracting this crap out of the water before the damage is permanent.... Define permanent :  Through my lifetime , yours , and at least 3 generations to come along , this mess will be mixing through oceans ,because BP is not being MADE to get it out of the ocean? 



NotNow

660 quadrillion gallons of water are in the roughly 620,000 square mile Gulf of Mexico.  In some places it approaches three miles of depth.  The US gulf coast is about 1700 miles and Mexico's gulf coast streteches another 1400.  I am afraid that it is impossible to completely clean this up, or to even clean it to an acceptable level.   

While I have defended President Obama's response here in the past, I will no longer do so.  The failure to mobilize a massive response, or even a sizable one, is inexcusable at this point.  The State of Florida is just hearing crickets despite numerous requests for money, manpower, and equipment.  When the President comes here in about a month for a photo op, I hope we remember.

We are at the mercy of experts when it comes to capping the well, but we are only hearing from BP's experts right now.  Why haven't we heard the second and third opinion from other oil people?  Too much time wasted, wasting away.
Deo adjuvante non timendum