Barnett/Laura Trio Redevelopment to be announced

Started by thelakelander, May 24, 2010, 03:13:33 PM

urbanlibertarian

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mtraininjax

Avondale is too spread out to have a serious nightlife district. Orsay and Yesterday's are 4 blocks from the Shops, Blue Fish, Brick, Town, West Inn, (Biscottis only has wine), new Thai restaurant is a few blocks away. I think Avondale is happy with what it has, we don't really want or need a nightclub district. Most places, except West Inn, close at decent times as well.

If I lived in the trio, I would demand all of the services needed, dry cleaning, pet grooming, groceries, drug store, restaurants within walking distance. I would not walk to the Winn Dixie from the Laura Trio. Should not have to do so.
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Quote from: mtraininjax on May 27, 2010, 10:50:09 PM
Avondale is too spread out to have a serious nightlife district. Orsay and Yesterday's are 4 blocks from the Shops, Blue Fish, Brick, Town, West Inn, (Biscottis only has wine), new Thai restaurant is a few blocks away. I think Avondale is happy with what it has, we don't really want or need a nightclub district. Most places, except West Inn, close at decent times as well.

If I lived in the trio, I would demand all of the services needed, dry cleaning, pet grooming, groceries, drug store, restaurants within walking distance. I would not walk to the Winn Dixie from the Laura Trio. Should not have to do so.

Exactly. And I'm not necessarily talking a full size supermarket, but if I run out of milk or something I want somewhere nearby where I can grab the basics quickly.

reednavy

Do what they did in Nashville on the ground floor of the Viridian Towers on Church Street. It has the conveniences of a grocery store, with a more limited selection, but fits perfectly into the area.

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Keith-N-Jax

A good location for something like that would have been the main street pocket park.

reednavy

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on May 28, 2010, 12:31:33 AM
A good location for something like that would have been the main street pocket park.
No, I'd say it would fit perfectly into the Laura Trio project. Nashville's Church St. is like our Laura St., it truly is the heart of the city.
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thelakelander

There is supposed to be a market at the Library project, whenever it breaks ground.  Solve the Landing's dedicated parking situation and it would be an ideal site for a Walgreens or CVS.
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fieldafm

With Urban Market, that would fill the grocery need.  BTW, the Winn Dixie has been renovated and its really nice inside compared with the dump it used to be!

A dry cleaning service is definately needed though!

A Walgreens/CVS/Rite Aid at the Park View Inn site is not only needed, but a viable use of the space.

With these amenities surrounding these proposed developments at Laura Street... downtown would be well on its way.  Add in fixed mass transit and the results would be a game changer to anything my generation has ever seen downtown.

tufsu1

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Quote from: mtraininjax on May 27, 2010, 10:50:09 PM
If I lived in the trio, I would demand all of the services needed, dry cleaning, pet grooming, groceries, drug store, restaurants within walking distance. I would not walk to the Winn Dixie from the Laura Trio. Should not have to do so.

could you do this in any other neighborhoods in northeast Florida?

btw...there is a convenience store on Adams St today (albeit a bit scary)....the Landing has Sundries, which carries some grocery items...and there is the store at the Shell Station (and maybe soon at the proposed gas tation)...so there are places other than Winn Dixie to get stuff.

copperfiend

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on May 28, 2010, 12:31:33 AM
A good location for something like that would have been the main street pocket park.

That would have been a good location for alot of stuff instead of a homeless lawn.

thelakelander

Quote from: stephendare on May 28, 2010, 10:01:23 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on May 28, 2010, 09:58:52 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on May 27, 2010, 10:50:09 PM
If I lived in the trio, I would demand all of the services needed, dry cleaning, pet grooming, groceries, drug store, restaurants within walking distance. I would not walk to the Winn Dixie from the Laura Trio. Should not have to do so.

could you do this in any other neighborhoods in northeast Florida?

Five Points

Jacksonville Beach and St. Augustine are two others.
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Joe

#191
I just measured it on google earth - the Laura Trio is 0.6 miles from the WinnDixie. That's a 12 minute walk at a leisurely pace. That's a significantly shorter walk than going end-to-end at the Avenues or Town Center Malls. So enough of this nonsense that downtown is lacking walkable grocery services. (The proposed development at the old main library is even closer: 0.15 miles)

Nevermind that most city dwellers drive their cars to the grocery store anyway - at which point the Winn-Dixie or the Riverside Publix are far closer to the CBD than the average suburbanite is to their grocery store.

vicupstate

QuoteI would demand all of the services needed, dry cleaning, pet grooming, groceries, drug store, restaurants within walking distance.

You can demand all you want, but until the population demographics can support it, it ain't gonna happen.  Pioneers have to realize their patience will be rewarded, but patience will be required. The people come first, not the businesses. 
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JeffreyS

Your pet grooming has to be walkable? isn't that like a once month or every other month service?
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Jaxson

Yes, there is a Winn-Dixie on Market Street.  I, however, am not the biggest fan of Winn-Dixie.  No matter when I shop there, it always seems like they can only manage to keep one cashier on duty.  It makes for a tedious trip when I only want to buy just one or two items and then have to wait behind eleven other customers.  To their credit, Winn-Dixie has improved their downtown location.  To their detriment, they still have some progress to make when it comes to serving their customers.  This situation is now more pronounced as my local Publix is closed for renovation, and I will actually bypass Winn-Dixie to shop at Fresh Market or Native Sun instead.
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