Landing bill moves forward without preservation funds, but mayor may veto

Started by thelakelander, May 17, 2010, 09:50:17 PM

thelakelander

"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Doctor_K

Quote from: thelakelander on May 18, 2010, 10:24:50 AM
The lot is the existing surface lot behind the Omni.
Brilliant!  There's a Skyway stop there, and you can walk the block and come down Laura or walk through the Omni lobby to get over to Water.  The increased foot traffic would be good for Juliette's in there as well.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."  -- Albert Einstein

duvaldude08

I love Jacksonville, but things like this make me hate it. Cant wait for peyton to disapper and some of those city council members.
Jaguars 2.0

RockStar

If the Mayor vetoes, can we call a vote of no confidence and have him ousted...please?

Steve

I think the better play is to get 13 council members to vote for it, and he can't veto.

Mattius92

They need STREETCARS down Water Street.



The BLUE is streetcar, and that semi-circle orange thing is the landing... guess what that wonderful blue line runs right next to the semi-circle of orange which is our lovely landing.

We dont need more parking we just need access from parking that already exists to the landing that already exists.

SunRail, Florida's smart transit idea. :) (now up on the chopping block) :(

hanjin1

Quote from: Mattius92 on May 18, 2010, 12:52:18 PM
They need STREETCARS down Water Street.



The BLUE is streetcar, and that semi-circle orange thing is the landing... guess what that wonderful blue line runs right next to the semi-circle of orange which is our lovely landing.

We dont need more parking we just need access from parking that already exists to the landing that already exists.



you may need to redraw that blue line and draw a small blue circle in front of the landing as the roudabout will be there now. i wonder if the roundabout is big enough for a streetcar to go around it?

Mattius92

Naww, a roundabout wont fit, but it wouldn't really be needed, you just hop on and off in front of the landing.
SunRail, Florida's smart transit idea. :) (now up on the chopping block) :(

Doctor_K

"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."  -- Albert Einstein

hanjin1

Quote from: Mattius92 on May 18, 2010, 01:00:56 PM
Naww, a roundabout wont fit, but it wouldn't really be needed, you just hop on and off in front of the landing.
i was saying that since there is now a roundabout, the blue line would have to be changed to accommodate that. even still i doubt this city is smart enough to put a real trolley/streetcar in jacksonville.

Mattius92

Ok, where's Ock, he is the streetcar/rail man.

I have a question, streetcar lines cant be that expensive, probably no more then building a new parking garage, and building a garage will only fix one problem, while streetcar can help solve several problems in DT Jax.

Where is this roundabout all of you are talking about??

SunRail, Florida's smart transit idea. :) (now up on the chopping block) :(

fsujax

Hanjin1...i really doubt JEDC cares if the roundabout is built to accomodate a streetcar. Considering their reaction to streetcars (JTA's streetcar study) in general....they could care less.

thelakelander

I would not worry about the roundabout.  It can be slightly modified to accommodate a streetcar line down Independent Drive.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Mattius92

SunRail, Florida's smart transit idea. :) (now up on the chopping block) :(

thelakelander

Anyone have any additional knowledge or opinions on this quote below?  I pulled it from Jacksonville.com

QuoteIf you do a littlew checking you'll find that the money was actually paid to the City by Humana for the sole purpose of providing the funding for the City to meet it's 23 year old obligation to provide parking dedicated to the Landing (Ord # 2006-957). You'll find out that the money could be used for no other purpose and was to remain in the account until the Landing parking obligation was met. The Mayor moved that money earlier this year to his Met Park project. All the council did yesterday was put it back where it belongs.

This story is so full of inacurate statements and outright lies from the Adminsitration and JEDC that it is almost criminal. If the Mayor veto's this don't be surprised if there is a lawsuit and even a grand jury investigation.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali