Jacksonville's 2030 Mobility Plan

[JC]

Does anyone have a .pdf of mobility plan they can email me?  The coj website is being wonky and wont allow me to open it.  pm me if you do and I will send my email address. 

[Ocklawaha]

I did a fictional extension of the Skyway system with about 5 additional miles added to it.



Legend:

Orange: Existing System

Red: Added line

Yellow: Current and proposed stations

Blue: Alternative Route for the Riverside Extension.


The extensions will have these following stations:

Riverside Extension: Fidelity, Five Points, and St Vincents.

Bay Street Extension: Courthouse/Hyatt/Future Convention Center and Sports Complex

San Marco Extension: N. San Marco and S. San Marco.

Nice job. Actually your stadium line is dead on right, and your San Marco extension get's to the right spot though the right-of-way might be costly over following the west side of the FEC RY down to Atlantic where a Intermodal Station could serve trains, bus, Skyway.

The Riverside Line would run into the Great Wall of RAP and be shot to pieces before you could get it off the slide.  The best Mass Transit Systems tailor their product according to community needs and standards, thus a Monorail in Riverside, 5-Points, or Avondale, would fly like a lead balloon. However YOUR LINE screams streetcar and it is along the original streetcar route or within a block of it all the way, so again your on target, just change the mode.

Never give up, never surrender!

OCKLAWAHA

[Mattius92]

Streetcar would be just fine, however the biggest key to reviving the Skyway is making it actually go somewhere.

However that might be fine if the Jacksonville Terminal was converted back into a station for commuter and regular passenger rail and have a connection from Jacksonville Terminal to the Skyway station, which they already have so all they need to do is bring back good ol' rail. Then commuters from all over the city can hop on the Skyway to their jobs in the inner city.

The stadium route, I believe is in the books, but no-one wants to risk it.

[thelakelander]

The Skyway is an isolated downtown peoplemover.  While limited skyway expansion would be beneficial long term, streetcar and commuter rail lines that stretch transit options out into the community (feeding it with riders) are what the skyway needs most.

[Mattius92]

haha, I have a google map for that too, actually I have a google map for everything. I have so many overlays and paths its unbelievable. Heck maybe I should go into civil engineering. Naww, I am wanting to be a chief...

[thelakelander]

When you get the chance, go ahead and post more of your ideas.  Many here would be interesting to see what you're cooking up.

[JC]

Does anyone have a .pdf of mobility plan they can email me?  The coj website is being wonky and wont allow me to open it.  pm me if you do and I will send my email address. 

[CS Foltz]

The powers that be just do not see the possiblities of what a rail system could do for revitilizing downtown! Not to mention the possibilities for moving people by rail rather than a polluting bus! If the bus system were actually filled to capacity that would be one thing but it isn't! BRT is JTA's sop to the masses and they can't even provide minimal shelters without advertising! Lots of luck on that one.........silly narrow minded concrete oriented bufoons!

[Coolyfett]

We have seen a skyway map like that before. The Northside is always left off lol. I think the 8th Street Shands area could use a station as well. I dont understand the RAP fear at 5 points. Whats so historic about it? That place was always adding, subtracting or changing the color of some building there. Dont see why mode would have to change just to get to 5 Points. Now King & Park or King & Post NO SKYWAY that far, but 5 Points? I see no biggie. Streetcar is the same thing like a trolley right? And how far should these little "Mr Rodgers Trolleys" go? I like the commter rail ideas and they should make those happen, but the Streetcar errr "Mr Rodgers Trolley", I am not too fund of those. Especially with the annual floods San Marco and Riverside get. Commuter to Jax Beach, JIA, GC Springs, St Augidog & Ferny Beach would be awesome. Is that something they have in the works to actually united the entire Jax Metro?

[Captain Zissou]

I think a skyway extension to the North end of 5 points and then a streetcar to Park & King, St Vincents, The Shoppes of Avondale, Fairfax, Murray Hill, and potentially to the St Marks/Ortega area would be the best solution.

A similar thing would work with an extension to Atlantic and then Streetcar to St Nicholas, San Marco Square, Miramar, North San Marco and potentially Lakewood would work.

I'm sure there's a Springfield solution as well, but I do not know the area well enough to comment.

This would make the skyway a backbone for a larger historic neighborhood streetcar network that would enhance the core immensely.  No streetcar would be as beneficial without the skyway linking them to the core, and vice-versa.

[Mattius92]

With that in mind, I going to slightly modify my map.

[blandman]

Why can't the Skyway be reconfigured so possible extensions could be built at street level?  The current monorail cars would need to be redesigned, but it seems like there should be a way to use the existing Skyway track downtown, and incorporate it (seamlessly) into the proposed light rail/street car.  Many transit networks have portions that are "elevated", but you don't actually have to get off and switch to new line.

[Mattius92]

that is possible yet, most monorail systems are powered by several hundred volts, if some retard were to walk on the tracks and get electrocuted the city will be to blame. We have to keep care of the tards in this world. There would have to be fences all all kind of crap to keep poeple off the track.

[Mattius92]

This is a revised version of my transportation plan, + commuter rail.