Should Hate Be Outlawed?

[Dog Walker]

It should be against the law for a single woman to live with seven dwarfs?

[Dog Walker]

Why is it ALWAYS about Springfield??  ROFLMAO!!

[JC]

Clever indeed. How do you guys manage it?

I am not clever, I just saddle up on some clever people to make myself look that way!

[buckethead]

See there! Birds of a feather stay near 'cause they're clever.

One can always tell when a thread is reaching closure by the onset of humor. This has been a fun thread. Thanks!

[JC]

See there! Birds of a feather stay near 'cause they're clever.

One can always tell when a thread is reaching closure by the onset of humor. This has been a fun thread. Thanks!

whatever

[Jerry Moran]

Midget Hate?

It's not what Midget is.  It's what Midget do.  Applies to all the protected classes.

You will take any opportunity, real or perceived wont you?

It's called CAPITALISM, baby, and it's always worked for me!

By the way JC, are you a hetro or bi female and over 18?  If so, I'd like to date you.

[NotNow]

What I need is to stop having needless arguments...

Yeah, its pointless with the poster anyways.  There is a real disingenuousness involved.  First comes the circular logic, then, (if you are lucky) will come the personal insults, usually followed by a rebuke for anti patriotism or a reference to something similar, then the subject will mysteriously shift in order to avoid the locomotive engine coming straight at them, then the next day they will pretend that the conversation never happened and start over with the same Glen Beck nonsense.

Its really very Sisyphean.

If you want to listen to hilarity ensue, simply ask where the Weapons of Mass Destruction went in Iraq, and then ask if the poster still back Blackwater and Eric Prince (its founder) as the paragons of moral virtue that all the rest of us should hope to one day live up to.....if only we could understand the noble warrior code.

Thats always good for a few rides on the roller coaster.

The thread title, incidentally is silly. 

We cannot, or rather it would be more correct to say, we should not be in the legal framework of limiting emotions.  They are our nature and are there for a great reason generally.  Even Hatred.  For example it is in our best interest to hate invading soldiers who are raping and murdering our neighbors.  We should hate evil. 

What we punish is the decisions that we make, based on emotions plus reason.  And that basic transaction in the relationship between the two ideals is what we call judgement

For example, when someone commits a crime of passion, like murdering their spouse for infidelity, we would punish them for Murder, not Passion. 

Or more analogous to the idea of a hate crime:  terrorism.

When some one murders a hostage because of the underlying desire to create fear based on politics or religion, we are not punishing them for either politics or religion.

We are punishing for the murders, true...but also because they are calculated to create something else, which is extortion based on the politics.

Or perhaps genocide:  The attempt to murder all members of a race or culture.   When the Germans attempted genocide on the Jews, it was based on their racial pride and their version of a scientific solution to their economic problems.

I suppose if one of the old guard hitlerian nazis were here, he would start a thread asking us, "Should we outlaw German Pride and Science?", and it would be just as disingenuous.

Hate Crime legislation is not an attempt to stop the unstoppable.  It is a punishment for using it as a basis to commit crimes to satisfy hatred.

Of course, if I could erase others arguments it would be a bit easier for me as well. 

The simple answer is we can not read the minds of others.

[Jerry Moran]

whatever

I do draw the line at Cholas.  Once had a bad experience with one and a razor blade.  I withdraw my invitation.

[Jerry Moran]

unless we are shooting at them for not using the sidewalk, right?

It depends entirely on the circumstances:

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