2030 Mobility Plan: A Driver for Better Development?

[strider]

Don't get me wrong, this is a great plan with tons more potential than anything else to come down the pike for some time.  I think, Lake, that you are exactly right and we, as a city, need to do this.  I have just been forced to become a realist in some things and there is wordage and ideas within this plan that will cause issues.  While it is fine to say those who will make them an issue do not matter and their arguments does not have merit, you can never tell for sure who is listening to them and who is not. These concerns should be addressed early to avoid delaying plans like this if nothing else.

Having said all that, how far away is the next step? The committee, will it have public meetings, ETC.? How much input can the various communities and interested parties have in this?

[lewyn]

The state legislature effectively gutted concurrency last year, by passing SB 360 (which basically eliminates concurrency requirements for anyplace with over 1000 people per square mile, which includes almost all of suburbia).

http://www.wikio.com/video/truth-florida-sb-1201843

http://www.fhba.com/docs/DOC172.PDF

So what's left to waive?

[tufsu1]

Not quite true...that was the Legislature's intent...but DCA's interpretation is that all that has been removed is the state mandate...local governments that implemented concurrency through ordinances would still need to repeal those ordinances...not surprisingly, very few have jumped up to do that.

Also keep in mind that SB 360 mandated that DULA communities institute plans to address mobility by 2012....that is what Jacksonville and other local governments are doing right now.

[CS Foltz]

lake.........I agree with strider on this one! There should be local input (as in the various suburbs and neighborhoods) How will we be able to get input on this one? I don't trust the Council to do much except cover their own self interests and the mayor...........well won't go there, wasted effort!

[thelakelander]

I agree, please don't think I'm making an argument for there not being local input.  This stuff was just not plucked out of thin air.  Many of the transportation projects have had years of local input through the JTA BRT, commuter rail and streetcar studies, as well as the TPO's LRTP and the City's Visioning process.  In addition, all council meetings are open to the public.  If the public wants to be involved, the opportunity has and will continue for them to be.

[CS Foltz]

Been to most of the mentioned agencies at one time or another just to get informed. Last TPO I attended was at Twin Lakes...........so that is why I asked if there will be other public meetings along those line?

[tufsu1]

FYI....public involvement often doesn't come cheap...for example, over $200,000 was spent trying to get participation in the LRTP.

[CS Foltz]

Well tufsu............if they can scrounge up a dime or two for committee's and consultants, it would seem to me to be reasonable to inform the public in some manner! Sooner or later someone somewhere is going to asking the public for money to fund something that is supposed to benefit everyone! Don't you think it would be prudent to do something to address the issue with the taxpaying public as in townhall meeting or something similar? Last meeting I attended was outstanding not only from an information standpoint but the chance to discuss transportation issues with professionals was worth the personnel time!

[tufsu1]

Yes CS...I think its incredibly important....but when people constantly yap about lower taxes and cutting givernment expenses, it becomes difficult.