Political Discussion about Healthcare Reform Law

[NotNow]

What a bizarre reply.  I'm not sure how you missed all of your political diatribe over the last couple of years.  I think I read pretty good, even with a few years on. 

Unlike others on this site, I have a job and can't/won't spend half the night looking up your old posts.  Everyone who has been here a while knows your politics...and your debating style.  Now, go to your room and stay off  of the computer for the rest of the night!

[NotNow]

Your worse than a communist.  You are a communist parading as something else.  Your insecurities make debating you much more irritating than useful.  Nothing is learned and no ideas are exchanged.  Your belief that your page long eloquent masterpieces come off as anything but narcissism is amazing.  Yet when faced with any logical argument, you revert to thirteen year old name calling.  Have a good night, I have wasted enough time with you tonight.

And I mean that in the nicest way!

[buckethead]

Well this went nowhere fast.

I still look forward to anyone willing to defend the fact that our federal government has delivered the totality of our citizenry as contractually bound property customers of private insurers, stepping up to the mic.

Namecalling is fun and all, but this is the issue that still has me fuming.

Some of you already know that I work for one of those fortune 500 health insurance companies. They have me quite busy currently, so I find myself unable to dawdle on any forums.

Counting money is a full time job.

[buckethead]

It seems to me you are taking much on faith. I do not share your optimism in the matter, nor your presumptions.

I still can't get a response concerning this most basic element of the legislation. It is the dealbreaker.

[buckethead]

No one is forced to purchase car insurance. It is only required for car owners.

Is an urbanite who exclusively uses public transit compelled to purchase auto insurance?

Likewise, who is the authority which dictates auto owners must purchase insurance? It must be the federal gubbmint.

[JeffreyS]

The mandate is actually a tax that you are exempted from if you have insurance. Technically it is not a mandate and it is a tax on the poor, middle class and rich.  note the "mandate" tax is not intended to ever be paid subsidized out for some exempted for others.

[whitey]

ok stephen I'll play along with the car insurance logic.  Does the gov't require you to purchase homeowners insurance or renters insurance?  Do you live or rent in a house/apartment?

[whitey]

apples and oranges.  Not everyone needs a car.  The homeowners/renters insurance would be a better comparison since everyone needs a place to live.  So how is the requirement for health insurance different from homeowners/renters insurance

[whitey]

yes, I choose to drive a vehicle.  And in accordance with florida law I purchased car insurance

[PJparker]

“It is always more difficult to fight against faith than against knowledge.” Adolf Hitler.

[whitey]

Again yes, since I CHOOSE to drive a vehicle I purchased car insurance in accordance with Florida law.

Let me know if the people who only ride JTA have to purchase car insurance.

[whitey]

But once again, you are comparing apples and oranges.  Owning a vehicle is a choice, having a place to live is not.

Have you been forced to purchase homeowners/renters insurance under penalty of law?

[whitey]

You are not compelled to buy car insurance unless you drive a vehicle.  Why are you ignoring that?

Every man, woman and child in the state are not forced to buy car insurance.

[whitey]

This is fun and all but we've established that several times already.  Why don't you just type out whatever point you are trying to bait me into.

[JagFan07]

I dont think thats an apples to apples comparison.

The issue is insurance that you are compelled to purchase.

Like Car Insurance and Health Insurance.

Why don't you object to the Car Insurance requirement?

Plus Auto Insurance is mandated by State law not Federal Law. Wisconsin and New Hampshire do not have this requirement, they just ask that you either provide insurance or meet certain financial requirements (i.e. post a bond).