2007 Census: How does Jacksonville rank?

[big ben]

I'll get you a list of local bands that made the Billboard Charts...  It will suprise you.

forget the billboard charts.  they mean nothing to a music scene.  a good scene is more about how often you can go to see good live music in your own town.  the fact that big, or somewhat big names have come out of jacksonville doesn't mean anything. 

i don't doubt that jacksonville's music scene might be the best in the state, but i wouldn't say it's good.  maybe we should stop comparing ourselves to the rest of florida.  austin apparently doesn't think like the rest of the state of texas. 

[Jason]

Th live music scene in Jax is pretty good, IMO.  I think the key is that you just have to know where to find it because it is very spread out.  Freebirds is probably the best place to catch a random show and the bands are very diverse.  If you dig the mellow "guy and a guitar" type, try out the Milltop Tavern on St. George St. in Saint Augustine.

[gatorback]

TSI brings in great bands from all over the world.  I caught the japanese emo band one night while i was out working the hotdog cart; and then the rappers from the NYC!  He was good.  I know they give the locals the stage on Mondays...everbody is welcome.  www.clubtsi.com

[raheem942]

well weres atlanta in the top fatestest growing u>s citeies.....o my fault it wasnt there just like i said metro area is bs counting all the surrounding areas as one is a cheap thenique t show grwoth to atrract bussnes ...so lets say Jax ,orange park,pote vedra ,nassua ,st.augstine

[blizz01]

Maybe this does/doesn't deserve a new thread - but pretty interesting nonetheless: TOP 40, BABY!

Jacksonville jumps five places in population rank
Raleigh has made the most impressive climb since 2000 in the population rankings of metropolitan areas, according to estimates released Tuesday by the U.S. Census Bureau.
Buffalo and New Orleans, on the other hand, have suffered the sharpest declines.
The Census Bureau released population estimates for all 940 metropolitan and micropolitan areas across the country on Tuesday. The figures do not come from the decennial census that is under way, but reflect the population as of July 1, 2009.
North Carolina’s Raleigh-Cary metro, which ranked 59th in 2000, is 49th in the new standings. Its rise of 10 places in nine years is the biggest gain registered by any metro in the current top 50.
Buffalo was 42nd in 2000, but is 50th now, a drop of eight places. New Orleans has also dropped eight places since the turn of the century -- from 38th to 46th.
Other big gainers during the past decade were Las Vegas (up six places), Austin and Jacksonville (both up five) and Charlotte (up four).
Jacksonville's population was 1,122,750 in 2000, ranking 45th, and that rose to 1,328,144 last year for 40th place.
Other significant declines occurred in Providence, which fell five places, and Milwaukee, which dropped four.

http://jacksonville.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2010/03/22/daily10.html

[blizz01]

Also, check out the link within the story:
http://buffalo.bizjournals.com/buffalo/blog/the_score/2010/03/buffalo_clings_to_50th_on_population_list.html
If you just use Florida in the criteria, it's interesting to notice that while Key West has declined in population in the last decade, Palm Coast has nearly doubled - I think we need to get some Jaguars shuttle busses down there to some of the retirement villages!

[Captain Zissou]

Great that we jumped up, but now we can't use the small market defense for when we can't sell out a jag game.  Wouldn't this put us at 4th smallest??

[Wacca Pilatka]

Great that we jumped up, but now we can't use the small market defense for when we can't sell out a jag game.  Wouldn't this put us at 4th smallest??

Yes, it would, but the gap between Jacksonville and the next smallest markets is pretty significant.  If I remember right, Indianapolis is about 1.6 million, Charlotte is a little over that, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati are about 1.9 each.

But it's a moot point, because we're selling out this year.

[Joe]

The bottom 10 in the NFL now go something like this

Green Bay - 304,000
Buffalo - 1,123,000
New Orleans - 1,189,000
Jacksonville - 1,328,000
Nashville - 1,582,000
Indianapolis - 1,743,000
Charlotte - 1,745,000
Kansas City - 2,067,000
Cleveland - 2,091,000
Cincinnati - 2,171,000

[Coolyfett]

40th place....In the top 40,

[Coolyfett]

well weres atlanta in the top fatestest growing u>s citeies.....o my fault it wasnt there just like i said metro area is bs counting all the surrounding areas as one is a cheap thenique t show grwoth to atrract bussnes ...so lets say Jax ,orange park,pote vedra ,nassua ,st.augstine

Metro Area is what matters the most. Most metro areas are close in size...populations are different.

[blizz01]

The bottom 10 in the NFL now go something like this

Green Bay - 304,000
Buffalo - 1,123,000
New Orleans - 1,189,000
Jacksonville - 1,328,000
Nashville - 1,582,000
Indianapolis - 1,743,000
Charlotte - 1,745,000
Kansas City - 2,067,000
Cleveland - 2,091,000
Cincinnati - 2,171,000

At least 5 of the mid to smaller markets have been shrinking over the last decade - mostly rust belt + New Orleans (Detroit & Pittsburgh also come to mind, not listed above) - Also, when will people just admit that Green Bay is propped up by Milwaukee?

[Joe]

Yeah, Milwaukee is about 1,500,000. It's a full 2 hour drive away, but obviously their population helps since the fans are so die-hard. The same thing could also be said about Buffalo (1 hour from Rochester, population 1,000,000) or even New Orleans (90 minutes from Baton Rouge, population 700,000) or for that matter Cincinnati (50 minutes from Dayton, population 850,000). Jacksonville is somewhat unique in that it's probably the only NFL market that's truly under 2 million people within a 2 hour drive.

Detroit, Pittsburgh, and Cleveland are the only markets ahead of Jax that are really shrinking. If current trends continue, Jax will get larger that Pittsburgh and Cleveland, but probably not for another 20-30 years.

In general (i.e. not just the NFL cities), it seems reasonable that Jax will leapfrog Milwaukee and Providence by 2020, putting the metro at #38 in the nation. Beyond that, it really doesn't look like Jax has much potential to change spots either up or down for awhile.